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Wednesday, August 16, 2017

Top ten tips for writing great fight scenes


Fight scenes

Mary Thinks She Knows Everything!?

Before I begin on this blog...that I wrote about two months ago...I need to explain why I have been totally (or almost) absent from Seekerville for a while, including missing my FIRST MONDAY OF THE MONTH POSTS for two months.
One day post surgery. Tina yelled at me for being on social media
I had a detached retina. I'm sure many of you have heard that, but I've never mentioned it (well maybe in the comments?) here.
So I had the surgery then was told I had to spend TEN DAYS lying FACE DOWN. Oh My Gosh, never ever has a treatment seemed so STRANGE. "Seriously Doc, you are requiring me to SMOTHER MYSELF?"
Doc sez, "Why you always gotta look at the dark side?"
So ten days face down...I survived with my sanity intact....trust me, I know this, because My Cowboy has serious doubts and insisted on having me tested!"
Now I've been up for about a month and MY LEFT EYE DOESN'T WORK WELL! It's so weird, my left eye is all messed up and supposed to heal but it's so SLOW.
So anyway, here I am, still a little shaky from the surgery. But finally writing again (I've been doing that for a while, but some days that's the limit of my computer time....
And now, with out further ado, I am going to write about fight scenes.
Go home. Lie face down. Ten days. Good luck.
BTW when they asked me how I got a small tear in my retina...which started the process that led to a detached retina...the doc asked, "Did you have a car crash? A fall? Take a blow to the head?...like six months ago?
I can't think of anything like that.
Doc Sez: Well, sometimes these things just happen.
Terrifying comment.
But speaking of 'a blow to the head'...no, I never got into a fist fight six months ago. And so my fist fighting blog makes some sense. (almost)

1. First write the scene



You need to write it out, over write it, not worry about the length…then tighten it, revise it.

This is true of all writing, but never moreso than in an action scene





2. Always remember character.

Your characters must remain in character while they are moving faster than ever, fighting hard, swinging a fist.




3. Advance the story with the fight

Always remember that, although these scenes, as a writer, are tense, taut, hard, important…it’s not that uncommon for the reader to skim or skip them. Can you think of an example of this?

My example: Have you ever read a Louis L’Amour book? I love Louis L'Amour. He's a huge inspiration. But his fight scenes are so cookie cutter that I never read them. My girls and I read the whole library collection of L'Amour, and we’d talk. The girls used to say L’Amour probably copied and pasted the same fight scene into every book, then went through and changed the names, and locations. Even though they were obviously climax scenes, black moment scenes, life and death scenes…we all skipped them.

It reminds me a little of the modern blockbuster movies like the Batman and Superman movies, the Transformer and Ninja Turtles movies. The fight scenes are ENDLESS AND BORING. Seriously, if I have to watch the poor Statue of Liberty get knocked over one more time, I’m doing a boycott.

Let’s face it, if it’s one of L’Amour’s Sacketts, or Superman, I KNEW the hero would win. Sure he’d get hurt, but he’d win. So if it's a movie, I check my email or try to get a few words written during a
Marvel Comic Movies, if it's a book, I skim along looking for when it ends, and then read the AFTERMATH of the fight scene. That’s very often when the fun really lurks.


4. Don't skimp on writing the AFTERMATH.

This is often the point of the whole exercise. Emotions should be sky high. Blood needs to be staunched. If he's not too badly hurt, a man should be full of sap. (define that for yourself)

5. Keep it short.

Make the fight scene not one word longer than you need it to be. You need to reveal character and
advance the plot with the fight. You need wit, action, surprises. You need to make the fight worth the read. Keep your reader in mind, much as you need to with backstory. You want them to stay with you, make what you write high stakes, charming, unique and brief.

I can remember one L’Amour shootout where the villain called out the hero to do a High Noon type shootout.

The hero came out of the saloon and just walked straight for the bad guy. No hesitation. This mental dialogue is going on in the hero’s head. Bad Guy expects us to exchange threats. He expects to tell me why he wants to kill me. He expects ‘brace yourself’ ‘face off’ ‘draw and fire’. Bad Guy's eyes are shifting, he's not as brave as he sounds. Thinking, walking, hero just keeps closing in steady, fast. Bad Guy is confused, hesitates, the hero walks right up to him and slugs him so hard he knocks him on his backside, then picks him up, punches him hard a few times, takes his gun and tosses him in a water trough.

The point here is, I remember this scene. It was different, surprising. That’s the kind of fight scene you want to write.

I rarely do fight scenes. I do running, shooting, falling, screaming, burning, chasing. But fist fights?

Nope.

I’ve done one. A fight scene in the end of Stuck Together. I can think of one other but the scene isn’t about the fight. The two brothers in the Cimarron Legacy start swinging at each other and knock over a lamp and the room catches fire while they’re fighting.

The scene is about their sister, Sadie and hired man, Heath Kincaid putting out the fire while dodging the two men rolling around on the floor slugging each other. I’m attempting to write one right now for my WIP and it’s an interesting challenge…trying to make it good enough to keep the reader reading!

5. Read great fight scenes.

Several times. As Tina would say, Deconstruct it.




6. Be true to genre.

Do you use western words, words like right cross, left jab, those are boxer words, would your character know them and think them?
If you're writing contemporary detective fiction, be aware of how those characters would talk.
If you're writing Amish....well, if you're writing Amish you probably will be keeping your fights to a minimum.
But you get my point right?


7. EMOTION.

There is emotion in the scene, this may be the MOST important.
It's not just swinging punches.

Emotion goes with pain, with fear, with anger.

KEEP EMOTION IN THE SCENE





8. Make your fight movie worthy.


Write like your book is a movie.

Think in terms of visual, living and moving people. 









9. Use the five senses.

Punches HURT. Falling and crashing into tables and chairs is noisy. Knuckles bleed. Sweat has a smell and you feel it rolling down your face. Blood has a taste. Using the senses draws the reader into any scene better than any other device in your writer’s toolkit.

10. Balance the elements. It’s very tough to balance the action, the thoughts, dialogue, the emotion, the scene setting. Any asides, any interior monologue had to be pared down and done just right or it stops action in it’s tracks. But neither can fists just swing and
connect, swing and connect.

A final bonus sort of non-writing tip.

Get a second set of eyes on your scene.

If you feel confident in your fight scene writing skills then go for it, but if you are new to it, get some neutral eyes on it. NOT YOUR MOTHER. She loves you too much to admit she daydreamed from sentence five on. A writer, not someone who will savage you, but who will be honest. Someone else can tell if the scene MOVES. They can tell if this piece of internal musing stops the action, the scene is emotionally flat. I'm amazed what others can see in my work that I can't seem to see.

Leave a comment about a great fight scene you've read, watched, written or...if you've actually been in a fist fight, you can tell me about that... to get your name in a drawing for a signed copy of 
by Mary Connealy
Click to Buy--just in case you don't win!!!!
The Boden clan thought their problems had ended with the death of a dangerous enemy, but have they truly uncovered the real plot to take their New Mexico ranch? Rancher Justin Boden is now in charge. He is normally an unshakable and rugged man, but with his brother, Cole, shot and in mortal danger, even a tough man faces doubts. And it doesn't help that Angie DuPree, the assistant to the doctor trying to save Cole, is as distracting a woman as Justin ever laid eyes on.

With her and the doc's timely skills, Cole looks to be on the mend, and Justin and the rest of the Bodens can turn their attention back to the dangers facing them. It's clear now that everything that's occurred is part of a much bigger plot that could date back to a decades-old secret. Can they uncover all the pieces before danger closes in on them, or is the threat to the ranch even bigger than any of the Bodens could imagine?

109 comments:

  1. Oh my Mary! I wondered what happened to you when you first posted your picture on Facebook. I was hoping you didn't get kicked by a mad mama cow or something. Never heard of a torn retina before but it sounds most unpleasant, and suffocating yourself for ten days?? How did you endure it! I would have loaded up with audio-books or something and listened while I was face first in a pillow. I'm glad you're better, albeit slower recover than you'd like. My prayers for speedy & full recovery going out to you!

    I don't read a lot (if any) books with fist fights in them and we've gotten away from watching a lot of TV anymore. Although we've caught a few episodes of The Wild Wild West lately. I suppose that counts for fight scenes :-) Guess I don't pay them much mind. I mean, it's a Western so you expect some kind of trouble right? Think I'd rather watch an old Western show or movie over the modern ones out with so much blood, gore and violence!

    Anywhoo...I already have a copy of Long Time Gone and I'm anxiously waiting for Too Far Down! I really do pray you get better with each passing day Mary! Sure do miss your posts and things :-)

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    1. Trixi thank you for the prayers. When I wrote my first real fist fight scene it was weird how bad I was at it. I had some serious work to do learning how to make the scene move and I must've re-written it ten times. (or one hundred times!)

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  2. I have never been in a fist fight. Just thought I would get that out there.

    I like a lot of dialogue in a fight scene, on screen and in a book. It not only breaks up the fight, so to speak, but is often lots of fun to read.

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    1. Mary you've never been in a fist fight? LOL, wow, me neither. In fact, with the torn retina one of the questions they asked was if I'd been punched.
      Me.....in what? Like a bar fight? That'd be out of character.

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  3. Mary, so sorry about your emergency eye surgery. I'm glad you're on the road to recovery... May God bless you with much improved vision. I too thought I was possibly having the same problem a couple of months ago, but it turned out to be my first floater I've since named Eleanor. The two of us have been learning how to bond.

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    1. LOL, Elaine. Naming your floater. :) I'll have to tell my sister to do that. :)

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    2. Elaine, too funny naming your floater...mine looks like a sperm...what name would you give it? lol

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    3. Is the floater still there after all this time? I have them but they don't last long.

      PS any eye quirks I have are not to be taken as 'normal' obviously!!!

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    4. Marcia, I don't know why, but the name Sigmund comes to mind :)

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    5. Mary, yes, Eleanor is still with me. I'm under the impression she's my new lifelong sidekick, but you've just filled me with hope that I might just be an empty nester, after all.

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  4. Thanks for the great tips, Mary. I've never written a fight scene, but I'll definitely keep this for future reference. I'm so happy to hear your eye is recovering. That must have been frightening for you.

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  5. I thought you'd embarked upon a new career as a pirate. All you need is a parrot on your shoulder, and you'll be all set!


    (Looks around at everyone's expression. Oh Well.)

    I hope you're doing better soon!

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  6. I do appreciate the fight scene tips. I have been fighting (as it were) shy of having my characters express any real, strong emotion. It's about time they started!

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    1. Evelyn you've GOT to get emotion on that page. YOU'VE GOT TO. Whatever they are doing they need to FEEL IT so your readers will feel it.

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  7. Fight scenes are so hard, Mary. Thanks for these great tips. This is definitely a keeper post!

    I hope your eye and vision get better. Take care!

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    1. You are all so nice. Thank you for the wishes and hopes for my eye, all of you. I wrote about five tips then thought of a few more, then combined a couple, then divided a couple....it came out to ten....ten-ish.

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  8. Wow. Never really thought about fight scenes quite this way, but now I'll be reading these scenes in a different light!
    Have never been in a fist fight. I do enjoy the high voltage fight scenes that Ronie Kendig writes.

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    1. MH go ahead and avoid real life fights.
      Mary 'Free Advice' Connealy

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  9. Hi Mary
    I've been praying for you. I'm sure the slow recovery is from that minor pesky detail that you're not the youngster you once were. I've discovered my recovery time from playing volleyball gets longer each year. I'm always sore for at least two days after now *sigh*. The body just doesn't recover as fast as our minds think it should. *hugs!*

    As for fist fights... I've had two. Gradeschool. Just after parents divorce... I guess I was an emotional wreck. First one didn't go to well. A little boy cut in line during a fun P.E. activity. I smacked him in the back and he turned around and punched me right below the ribcage. Knocked the wind out of me and next thing I know, I'm waking up on playground pavement with a very worried P.E. teacher hovering over me. Poor boy got suspended.
    Second fight was during a dodge ball game during lunch recess. A girl thought I hit her, so she punched me in the arm, I punched her back in the arm and then the teacher got a hold of us both and dragged us out of the game. We both got swats (parochial school). We deserved it.
    No more fights since. Too painful.

    I like your fight scene steps. I will definitely reference this should I ever need to do a fight scene.

    *hugs* again, and prayers for fully restored eyesight. <3

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    1. Deb...might as well learn early. At the end of a fist fight, win or lose, everyone just is tired and sore.

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  10. Thank you, Mary. We've missed you.
    Best Fight Scene Ever: the on in John Wayne's "The Quiet Man," where the entire Irish village joins in the brawl and John Wayne and the antagonist stop for a quick drink at the pub before joining the fray again.
    I have three fight scenes in my work, two in the Oregon Trail series and one in the New York 1920s series. Tried to keep introspection to a minimum, while enhancing each fight's unique background, i.e. Julia and Henry are battling mobsters at the top of the Statue of Liberty, and her CHILD is at stake, so I try to work that in without too much reflection and introspection. I think, armed with this post, I may go back and revisit my fight scenes.
    Each one should be different, based on that character's arc and how they feel about the antagonist.
    I'm a fan of the Marvel superhero movies, but I tend to blank out the fight scenes, which do tend to go on forever.
    Please enter me in the drawing.
    This is a good post, Mary, glad to have you back.
    Kathy Bailey

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    1. I agree, Kaybee! Great fight scene. :)

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    2. Kaybee! Great fight scene. What about the fight scene when everyone gets knocked into that mud pit. What's that one? Big Jake maybe? John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara again.

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    3. Still love the mud pit scene!Since my mom and dad loved westerns, I've seen reruns of that movie a bazillion times.

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  11. Vince and Walt, are fight scenes easier for guys? Or do you not do them?
    KB

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  12. I have a couple fight scenes in a couple of my books. Love's Miracles revolves around memories of one. So I guess I've written them. Wish I'd had your list when I did. LOL. I'm so thankful you are recovering from your surgery, Mary. Have been praying for you.

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    1. Thanks, Sandra. I appreciate all the thoughts and prayers.

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  13. I could probably have my husband review my fight scenes. He has a black belt in karate, and he DOES stay awake during the Marvel fight scenes. Food for thought...
    KB

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    1. Kathy, I once wrote a chase scene and had my husband read it for me. It's still his favorite scene I ever wrote. LOL

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    2. Kaybee have him read it, but remember you've got to use terms appropriate to your genre. No black belt terms on the Oregon Trail!!!

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  14. It's interesting that you never write fight scenes. Your books feel like they're riddled with them.

    So, that's a huge accomplishment.... making me think they're there when they're not! Ha!

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    1. Well, I write ACTION SCENES. Plenty of them. But as far as people hitting each other...when I went to do that I was honestly a little surprised to realize I'd never done it before.

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  15. Great topic, Mary! My villains sometimes attack my heroines. The heroines struggle to get free. I love writing those scenes. Bam!Boom!Bang! Lots of action. Lots of tension and emotion, as you mentioned. I must have a twisted mind! :)

    Praying for your vision!!!

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    1. I love your mind & your writing, Debby! Thanks for the copy of your book that I found in my Swag Bag from CFRR. Can't wait to have some time to sit down & read it! :)

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    2. Our sweet Southern belle Miss Debby loves writing fight scenes??? What else lurks beneath that genteel exterior? 😉

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    3. Debby you're so great at action scenes. I marvel at your work and how it drags me in and holds me. You're a master.

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  16. I've never been in a fist fight, so I probably wouldn't know a good fight scene if it...well, if it hit me in the face. LOL But I do know what hold my attention, and it's definitely the emotion of ANY scene. You made some great points, Mary!! And really, they're great points about any scene. A nice reminder to make sure the POV character stays in character, etc.

    I'm still praying for full recovery of your eye!

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    1. Missy it all comes down to emotion doesn't it!?
      We need our readers to FEEL what our characters are feeling

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  17. Still praying for your recovery, Mary!

    I agree that the scene needs to move the story forward. I also enjoy reading the aftermath, it seems to bring the hero & heroine closer together & gives them something to bond over.

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    1. Thank you for the prayers, Beth.
      I can't believe it took me so long to check in today. I'm still a little addled.
      I asked a friend this morning if she wanted to try and corral our husbands into going out tonight for Taco Tuesday at a local restaurant.
      She said, "It's Wednesday."

      Shake My Head!

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  18. The fists will do what they will, but Mary, no one puts the emotion in a fight scene like you. Being a non-violent person I have been known to actually skip the fight scenes sometimes. But never in a Mary book. I like feeling what the characters are feeling (not the punch in the face so much) but you get what I mean. Sure hope your eye heals soon and really hoping to read Long Time Gone soon. I loved No Way Up!

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    1. Cindy the next book is coming! It always seems to SLOW!
      Thanks for saying that about emotions in a scene in my books. It's always my goal. I'm pretty non-violent myself.

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  19. MARY, I'm so sorry for what you have been going through! I'm praying you recover quickly! (((((HUGS)))))

    I haven't read many books with fight scenes.

    Please enter me in the drawing.

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    1. Hi Caryl. The one author, Louis L'amour, who had a fist fight in nearly every book, is one I love. But I always thought his actual fight scenes were repeats of the book before.

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  20. Good advice, Mary. I'm with you--long, repetitious fight scenes are so, so boring. Same for extended chase scenes. I care less about all the action and more about the characters themselves.

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    1. Yep, get through it. Advance the story during it if possible so readers need to read it.

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  21. Mary, I love Louis L'Amour too. And yes, the fight scenes tended to be alike.

    Favorite fight scene? Indiana Jones shooting the guy w/the sword. Okay, maybe that wasn't a fight scene, but it was memorable.

    I can't think of a worse torture than to lay face down for 10 days. It would kill my back! Was you sore all over?

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    1. ohhhhh... I LOVED that scene the first time I saw it (well, and every time after too). All that posturing and bam! Done. Unexpected and memorable.

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    2. Connie, I was sore AND INSANE!!! Not a great combo.
      Ah, I loved that when the sword guy faced off with Indy and Indy shot him.

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    3. Ditto Indiana Jones scene! Bet you can't guess what my favorite movie is. Yeah. Crazy, huh?

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  22. Some fight scenes I've seen that come immediately to mind are...

    Lord of the Rings. Yes! Lord of the Rings is my muse. Those battles are awesome. My personal favorites are The battle at Helms Deep and the skirmish at the end of the first movie where Aragorn takes out like a hundred orcs. I always liked it when Legolas and Gimili had a contest going to see who would kill more orcs. And when the Witch King died... it's definitely good to have super awesome quotable lines during your fight scene "I am no man!". And I rest my case that I'm a nerd.

    Ooh! And Pirates of the Caribbean, that scene where they're dueling on the giant wheel on Isla Cruces. Priceless. And that battle at the end of the third movie where they're swinging from ships while going down a whirlpool... not at all realistic, but pretty cool to watch. They have some fun duels where people are jumping around on rafter beams.

    Also there are some pretty good battle scenes in the first two (especially second) Narnia movies, but I haven't watched those half as much as Lord of the Rings or Pirates.

    ... And I'm getting carried away.

    Thanks for the tips, now I"m going to have to go look through all my fight scenes.

    I'm so sorry about your eye. That sounds awful. I had to have my first surgery (like, ever) at the beginning of the summer, but it was only a mouth surgery. So even though I spent the two weeks after it lying in bed (the pain meds made me dizzy, and the medicinal mouth wash they gave me made me sick to my stomach) at least I could read. Or even work on my story if I was feeling up to it. Having to lie on your face for ten days? *Full body shudder* that sounds horrible! I hope your eye finishes recovering quickly.

    No need to enter my name for your book. I already have it.

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    1. I'm not a big Pirates of the Caribbean fan but I do remember that fight on the huge wheel. It's pretty fun watching them dodge and practically dance their way through a sword fight.

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  23. So sorry to hear about your eye. I will pray for your healing. I haven't written a fight scene but your advice could be applied to any writing. Have a good day as you sit upright for a change.

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    1. Bettie I think you're right. Every scene can drag. Every scene needs to hold emotion and advance the story!!!!

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  24. Agree with Connie Queen: I think one of the greatest fights ever filmed is in Raiders of the Lost Ark--but it's all because Indiana Jones DOESN'T fight. My grandpa watches the movie over and over again for that one scene and laughs every time.

    A more obscure movie with a great fight scene is the Richard Chamberlain version of King Solomon's Mines--he's the hero (Allan Quartermain), trying to fight off a minor bad guy and rescue the girl, but she's in the fight too and inadvertently does Quartermain more damage than anything else. He finally tells the bad guy "I'm going to have to shoot you before she kills me!"

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    1. I remember that movie, Rachael but not that scene. Sounds hilarious. I should watch it!

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  25. Great post!(and so glad you can be up and about again!) I love writing fight scenes...and being in fight scenes. :) Alright, just choreographed ones. As a martial artist we often put together "fights" for public demonstrations--especially when knives and such are involved. I loved choreographing and enjoy translating that into the page. Though I have to tame out the martial art parts as my last series is set in the Colonial era. :) Anyways, thanks for the foot for thought!

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    1. Angela, you're into Martial Arts? That's so cool! I'm barely into walking around the house here lately!!!

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  26. Mary, it's great to see you back here in Seekerville again. I'm so sorry you are still having trouble with your eye. I will continue to pray for healing.

    I have never been in a fist fight and I have not written a fight scene. I do tend to get bored sometimes with fight scenes in movies. Right now I can't think of any particular movie fight, either.

    No need to enter me in the drawing. I already have the book!

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    1. Sandy I watched a fight scene with....it was I think the first Superman with Henry Caville as Superman, fighting Zod at the end. Adn they fought and fought and fought and fought and wow, did it every go on forever.....then finally Superman just sort of Choked Zod out. Now why didn't he do that to begin with??? Weird

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  27. Mary blessings to you for healing with your eye. You're a tougher cowgirl than I am to endure all of that. So worth it though.

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    1. Barbara, don't you think that if I was REALLY TOUGH my retina wouldn't have detached to begin with?

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  28. Mary, prayers for a complete healing. Eyes are so important to our business. As a person with a hearing disability, the loss of one sense throws all the other ones off a bit. After 30 years I've learned to compensate using the others to make my disability into an ability for a somewhat normal life.

    I can hardly stand to squash a bug, and getting into a fist fight scares me spitless! I haven't written one yet, but the fourth chapter of my WIP is a bar scene, so anything can happen.

    No movie comes to mind for me, so I'll second the Indiana Jones' movies for fight scenes without a real fight.

    Blessings,

    Marcia

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    1. Marcia, I didn't know y6ou struggled with hearing loss.
      My kids had almost an .... intervention ... with me about my hearing.

      Not being able to see well has really made us all aware that my hearing is bad to the point I do a LOT of lip reading...no by a plan, just how I've functioned for a while.
      Mostly I'm just home along with My Cowboy and he's learned to speak up.
      So I need to get my hearing tested!

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    2. Mary, my hearing loss was due to a hereditary disease called Otosclerosis. It is the hardening of the stapes bone that prevents the vibrations that let you hear. They do what's called a stapedotomy, and replace the stapes, which is no bigger than a piece of dust with a prosthetic device. Sounds complicated, and it is, but I could hear after the procedures. Not 100%, but I could hear. Unfortunately with age, my hearing loss has become worse. I no longer hear out of my right ear, and suffer at least a 45-50% loss in my left ear. I have read lips since I was in my 30's, so I can fake it till I make in any conversation. If you think you need tested, do so. Hearing is a precious thing.

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    3. I've got to do it, Marcia. Just to make my children believe I HEARD THEM when they talked to me.

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  29. okay, just realized you cannot mention a fight scene without referencing THE PRINCESS BRIDE. The duel at the top of the cliffs of Insanity? CLASSIC!
    The fight at the end of the movie between the Count and Indigo?
    (for perhaps the fifth time...) "Hello, my name is Indigo Montoya... you killed my Father... prepare to die"
    "Stop saying that!"

    *sigh* I love that movie...

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    1. So right Deb! The only movie I have ever seen that is actually better than the book!

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    2. I love that movie! The sword fight scene is excellent, and even the scene where Fezzik holds a rock and fights Westley with Westley on his back is great.

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    3. I LOVE PRINCESS BRIDE~
      You know which fight I just thought of, in the Star Trek episode with the Tribbles. Remember that huge fight scene when the Klingons called Captain Kirk all those awful names and Scotty just kept saying, "We're big enough to take a few insults."
      Then the Klingons called the Enterprise a Garbage Skow and Scotty throws the first punch and all ... ahem... HECK breaks loose.

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  30. Mclintock w/John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara also had a great fight scene. You get more fun than everybody sliding down the muddy hill into the water.

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  31. Mary, I love romantic comedies so I don't watch as many movies that have fight scenes, but I do enjoy the fight scene in a movie called Ball of Fire, where Gary Cooper's academic professor character has to fight with only the moves he's learned in books. Since it's Gary Cooper, I think it's a pretty safe bet he wins the fight. Thanks for the tips about how to write a fight scene and ways to enhance the senses that I might not have thought about including.

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    1. I haven't seen that movie. That certainly sounds like the character's personality informs the fight. :)

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    2. I've never seen that Tanya. I'm keeping a list of great fight scenes.

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  32. MARY!!!! We've missed you, my friend, and not thrilled to hear the eye is still amiss. :( Praying that vision comes back SOON!!

    If anybody can teach about a fight scene, it's you, girlfriend, because you have some of the best I've ever read!

    You said: "The girls used to say L’Amour probably copied and pasted the same fight scene into every book, then went through and changed the names, and locations."

    LOL, that is a HOOT!! And also a worry. Because you see, I will often go back into prior books to reuse a phrase I wrote that I particularly liked. BUT ... my rule of thumb is ONLY if it's 3 or more books back in the lineup. :)

    You also said: "Emotions should be sky high. Blood needs to be staunched. If he's not too badly hurt, a man should be full of sap."

    Well, I'm no Mary Connealy, but I have written a fight scene or two and ALWAYS run them past my hubby for a masculine point of view. And I ALWAYS draw blood and usually include a kick to the gut that sends the guy flat on his back with a gargled groan. LOVE doing that! Just did it in my latest, His Steadfast Love, and it was SO fun!!

    EXCELLENT blog, my friend -- always good to learn from the master!

    HUGS AND MORE HUGS!
    Julie

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    1. Julie I have a few phrases that I have written that I love and I love re-using them. I always hope I don't over do it.

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  33. Mary, excellent, excellent points for writing fight scenes readers won't skip and the aftermaths when the good stuff happens.

    I'm blown away that I've written more fight scenes than you have and to be honest, I'm totally excited. LOL I had a fight scene in my first and last LIH. Not that I planned that.

    I'm praying for your eye to heal as good as new! I didn't realize the doctor thought it started with a fall. Seems like you fell ages ago, far longer than six months.

    Janet

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    1. I've had falls, Janet, but not recently. He asked if I'd fallen but not since I went to my last eye appointment right about a year ago...at least not that I remember. And the doctor said a routine eye appointment would have picked up on a retinal tear.
      Maybe I fell and now I have AMNESIA!!!

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    2. Nope, no amnesia. You're fine! Believe me or else. ;-)

      Tough girl Janet

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  34. In grad school, I played in a racketball league. I had a match one evening against a guy (a psychiatrist) who refused to wear protective eyewear. I protested and was told by the club that I had to play the match or forfeit.

    He spent 5-6 weeks in the hospital, the first two with both eyes covered and him not allowed to move.

    As for fight scenes, I was once told (I think it was by Keli Gwyn), that my fight scenes were what gave away my gender. The first drafts are long.

    And, I need to mention two of my favorite movie fight scenes: Inigo Montoya and the Count and Inigo Montoya and the Dread Pirate Roberts.

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    1. They must've been putting Ph.Ds in cracker jack boxes, Walt!!!

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  35. The hardest thing there is to do, is write good fight scene. I bow to the experts.

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    1. You think so, Tina? It's the HARDEST?
      Wow. I know it was hard for me.
      I prefer to just whack people over the head with a rock if I want them defeated.

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  36. I have a fight scene in my biblical novel "Rain" and the guys who read it thought it was great. That was an ego boost! :)

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  37. I AM SO SORRY TO JUST BE CHECKING IN NOW!!!!!
    YIKES!
    PLEASE LET'S JUST PRETEND IT IS NINE AM OK???

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    1. LOL! Okay, Mary, an excuse to have more coffee. :)

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    2. I was all ready for tomorrow...which I have no realized is the day I'm supposed to be at the Rocky Ridge online retreat.

      Oh just shoot me!

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  38. Mary, glad to see you back in action again. That has to be so hard to deal with. I do action fairly well, although from time to time I lose where my characters are in a scene. I do picture it in my mind like a movie, which helps. Realm Makers conference has a fight workshop where they teach you how a character should hold a weapon, how they would swing, and what is unrealistic in any battle. It's really cool, as the instructor uses a volunteer to show how you would tumble and joust, or get out of a headlock. So, even going to a self-defense class could help someone understand the logistics of who people fight.

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    1. DAwn what a great session! I love that idea. You should make it your own and teach it at ACFW!!!!

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  39. How people fight. Not who people fight.

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  40. Mary, so that's where you've been. So, so sorry to hear about the eye.

    Yes, I have been in a fist fight with a boy...Billy. He lived next door when I was nine. He kept harassing the little kids in the neighborhood. I told him to stop. I'm sure he said something like, Who's gonna stop me?" And I probably said something like, "Me." He probably laughed, and the fist fight was on. I bloodied his nose, we circled each other a lot with our fists up, and then a flurry. His mother finally broke it up. The next day at school he had a honkin' big, bruised nose.

    The manuscript I just turned in has a short, rage-driven fist fight that ends in gunplay. Lot's of emotion and rightly so. Horrid antagonist who deserves what he got.

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  41. Mary, so sorry about your eye! Been praying and will continue to do so!

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    1. Thanks, Jackie. I feel like I'm being a total slacker. A disappointment to all who hoped I had inner toughness. :(

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  42. Mary, That was really interesting and thought provoking. Makes me want to write a fight scene. Writing medieval most of my fight scenes are with swords. Do those count? ;o)

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    1. They count all except the swords seem like MORE, you know. So you do everything I said and then figure out the sword terms and add them in.
      Also add some clanking right? :)

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    2. LOL. Yes a combination of clanking, clanging a clunk every now and then. But reading your left jab boxer terms it made me think how I've read some parrying going on in medieval books but ahem... parry did not come around until close to the mid 17th century.

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  43. No, i've never been in a fist figgt but i easily could have been in a situation similar to yours. My husband had a torn retina a few years ago and he was also told that "those things just happen" when he questioned his doctors. He had to keep his head tilted to one side for the first day and he wasn't aloud to roll over on his back during the first night. Talk about a watchdog! I was!! I watched him like a hawk so that he wouldn't straighten his head and that night I slept with my back against the pillows that were keeping him from rolling over. He was, of course, extremely aggravated at my insistence that he follow orders!
    So glad that you're back, Mary, I will pray that your eye will completely heal.
    Blessings to you!
    Connie
    cps1950(at)gmail(dot)com

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  44. Will continue praying for your recovery, Mary.

    My brother in law has torn both retinas. At different times. He didn't share the extent of his misery so I hadn't realized how difficult that had to have been for him until I read your story. Thank you for sharing.

    Please enter me in your drawing.

    May God bless and heal you and draw you nearer to Him while you wait. And may God bless all of Seekerville!

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  45. My prayers for your continued healing Mary. I don't know anyone that has had a detached retina but it sounds like you did it all right to heal! I've read plenty of fight scenes in books, my favorites is always when someone stands up for the orphans,underdog or an animal being abused. Would love to read Long Time Gone. Please enter me in the drawing. Thank you!

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