by Rachel MacMillan....
Ruthy note! I've been facebook friends with this amazingly frank and funny woman for a long time, since her early days in Seekerville and her current stint as amazingly hard-working career woman who happens to write a lot of books on the side. My kind of gal! I was so pleased she made time to join us for our 10th Birthday Celebration here in Seekerville, and I welcome Rachel's snark and wisdom. I get a kick out of both!
As a reader, I fall for setting as much as I do character. A well-developed and historically or contemporarily accurate setting can transport this armchair traveler to the ancient ruins of Rome or the battlefields of the Great War or a lazy porch swing on an American farm as days fall shorter and snow sparkles the sky. A well-developed setting, I believe, can act as one of the most important characters in your novels. A world built well is a reader’s dream --- but it takes some planning and imagination on the part of its creator.
Often, world building is a term reserved for writers who create fantastical realms like Tolkien or Science Fiction that takes us beyond the stars like in Star Trek. I believe that every time we take pen to paper we create a world: the narrative voice that maps through the characters and events we transcribe on page, the nuances, the vernacular, what we choose to describe and the lines we leave uncoloured for the readers’ imagination to fill in.
So how do we do that?
MAP IT OUT You want your readers to be able to follow in the footsteps of their favourite characters in a literary pilgrimage. On my most recent trip to London, I found my way to the wall of the Marshalsea Prison ---made famous by Charles Dickens’ Little Dorrit and a place I had always wanted to visit because of my love for the author and the book. Hugo’s Hunchback of Notre Dame was another recent cross off my literary bucket list when I visited Paris this Summer.
The gas lit cobblestones of Stevenson’s Edinburgh evoke the same chill that I felt reading Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
The leaves crunching under my feet in autumnal Concord made me feel that Jo, Amy, Meg and Beth were just around the corner.
On my first trip to Vienna, I had a better than working knowledge of the city—even beyond a map---because Bodie and Brock Thoene had painted its splendor so well in Vienna Prelude. In each case mentioned above, I was immediately able to recall moments from the novel and feel an immediate kinship with my surroundings because they came to life in the books I read.
IF YOU CAN, GO…
Earlier this year, I heard Stephen Schwartz speak. Schwartz is a popular Broadway composer and lyricist famed Wicked and Godspell, among other musicals. He has worked with Alan Menken on several Disney films including The Hunchback of Notre Dame. He stepped out from the bell tower and high into the rafters where the gargoyles Quasimodo befriends stood sentry. The Paris he looked out at, of course, had been stamped by modernity---but he said he could strip it all away and just imagine the city unfolding before him in its rudimentary Medieval state. Where would the baker’s stall be? Where would the bells’ sound reach? Often things as slight as the direction the sun would slant through a window or whether buildings would block the belch and horn of an incoming ship can add that extra sense of place.
I can’t teleport to 1930s Boston, the setting of my next series, but I can return again and again and walk the streets and strip the present from my mind. A trip to the Massachusetts Historical Society allowed me to study maps and to see how street names and roads have changed with construction and expansion. Of course, a major city has evolved in the decades that have elapsed and a careful author will walk and experience and, like Schwartz, use their imaginative power to expose the city before skyscrapers and raging automobiles and teenagers weaving in and out taking selfies with buildings.
If you don’t have the opportunity to travel, read all of the books ---fiction and non—you can find. Borrow travel booklets from the library, read Expedia and Trip Advisor questions and reviews—especially those that deal with distance or transportation if they are integral to your story. Use Google Earth. It is amazing that you can zoom in and have a live look at the place you are writing on your screen. Is there a church in the perimeter? Is there a tucked away coffee shop? These details can bring your book to life.
Pick a few key buildings or places that would be around in your book’s time period, if writing historically, or that you are familiar with even as a contemporary author.
In the Herringford and Watts series, I imagined Toronto in the Edwardian period and while the city has undergone major changes, historical preservation afforded me a great advantage. To get my bearings of the city and to create my world of downtown Toronto in the 1910s, I used several of the same places and streets to build around in a familiar grid. The Elgin and Winter Garden Theatres appear in almost all six stories featuring my lady detectives. Big Ben and City Hall provides a sentinel for a Canada shifting to war, Union Station sees trains chug out and in bringing people to and from the metropolis of my mind. Picking a few key points allows for easy mapping and research of a perimeter. Start small and work your way out until the entire curtain is pulled back on the past. I frequented the archives for photographs as well as maps from the age. Using my home as a character made me fall in love with it over and over again and my favourite response from readers is always “Now I want to visit Toronto.”
It is easier to embroider a place you know well. Pick a place you have an affinity with, an emotional attachment to or fond memories of. Or, if you are a historical novelist, a place with an interesting tenet of history you are fascinated by. It is far easier to create a setting full of character if you can close your eyes and inhabit it in your mind. Remember that settings don’t need to be customarily flashy---they just need to have heart or facet to them. The TV show Midsomer Murders takes place in a typical English village –though season after season atrocious murders cut through the routine ins and outs of rural life. Hallmark Christmas films take small ordinary towns and spark them to life with twinkle and romance.
MAKE SURE ACCURACY STILL ALLOWS FOR IMAGINATION:
In my new series, my detective, Hamish DeLuca, finds immediate access to the Old North Church on Salem Street in Boston. While I have spent my time there with an historian to get a clear sense of it in the 1930s (there were several differences a result now of historic upkeep), Hamish is able to get access to places that a public resident wouldn’t be able to explore. I can keep the integrity of that historical setting while taking fictional allowances. As a reader, I am far more interested in a writer capturing the essence of a time period than taking myself out of the story to nitpick every last supposed inaccuracy.
Questions for you:
What is the last book you read that evoked a strong sense of setting as character? What are some of the ways you use to develop setting in your own work?
Rachel McMillan lives in Toronto where she works in Educational Publishing. She reads voraciously, loves to travel near and far and is a Broadway fanatic. She is the author of the Herringford and Watts series for Harvest House and the upcoming Van Buren and DeLuca series for Harper Collins/Thomas Nelson... and she's offering a signed copy of The White Feather Murders to one lucky commenter!
as emblems of female empowerment in a city preparing to enter World War I at the behest of Great Britain. Yet, despite their popularity, the lady detectives can't avoid the unrest infiltrating every level of society.
Welcome to Seekerville, Rachel. I've read A Singular & Whimsical Problem and loved it. Love the covers your publisher produces. They are easily identified as YOU.
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Tina--- thanks so much! I LOOOVED the covers Harvest House did for Herringford and Watts and I am lucky that Thomas Nelson has an amazing vintage feel for Van Buren and DeLuca-- I am batting 100 with covers :-) I am so happy to be in Seekerville!
DeleteHi Rachel, welcome to Seekerville! I have to agree with you that a setting in a book can make you feel as if you traveled there without even getting out of your chair. I've had many such adventures in the pages of a book! It's like you've literally stepped inside the world the author creates (sites, sounds, smells, touch, etc). I especially love reading books set in places I've visited before or are familiar with because I live in or near there.
ReplyDeleteI read Andrea Boeshaar's "My Heart Belongs in Shenandoah Valley: Lily's Dilemma" recently, and boy talk about stepping back in time! Her vivid scenery made me feel as if I was in strolling in the orchard or dipping my toes in the cool water in the creek. I could even picture what the Haus am Bach (house by the creek) looked like. The other one that comes to mind is Ann H. Gabhart's "These Healing Hills" that takes place up in the Appalachian Mountains. The paths through the trees, the steepness of the mountain, the rough terrain and even the way the mountain folk talk all painted a picture in my mind.
There's been so many books that I've read that do the same thing. I think it's just as important as character depth in a story. I like feeling like I've stepped into the pages and are a part of the authors made-up world :-)
I've not yet had the pleasure of reading your books yet Rachel! Thanks for the chance to win a copy of "The White Feather Murders" :-)
Hi Trixi!!! I really love Andrea Boeshaar's commitment to creating amazing settings so I agree with you, there. These Healing Hills is on my TBR list partly because the setting sounded so wonderful. Thanks so much for dropping by and taking the time to comment :-)
DeleteWelcome, Rachel! You've really inspired me to go back and look at my setting in my wip! I'm still working on a first draft, but I need to be sure to layer in my setting when I go back through it. That part can be really fun!
ReplyDeleteI have only done one real town setting (my first book). The rest have been fictional. But I do blend the things I like about small towns I've visited and use those descriptions. I also draw maps!
Missy--- you bring up a really interesting point--- IT is wonderful when authors are able to create a well-drawn fictional setting. And it sounds like your commitment to your setting informs your taking the time to create maps so you have a very well-rounded perspective of the world you are drawing on. I know Melissa Tagg does a good job of creating Maple Valley--- and I can feel I am there even though if I ever visited Iowa, I wouldn't necessarily find it on the map. If writing is fun it is worth it, so I am so glad you enjoy building your worlds :)
DeleteRachel, I'm glad you mentioned Maple Valley. I've created a few different small towns. But I'd really like to create one to use in more books so I don't have to keep reinventing the wheel.
DeleteHi Rachelle:
ReplyDeleteI am also a big fan of setting/environment. I buy many books for the locations. I expect the setting to provide extra value to the reading experience over and above the entertainment value of the story.
So I read Hamish Macbeth, M. C. Beaton, to learn about the sociology of the Scottish Highlands, Nevada Barr to experience our National Parks from the inside out, Donna Leon to feel what it would be like to live in Venice as a citizen, Steven Saylor for a good idea of what it was like to live in ancient Rome, and Julie Lessman to live in a 1920's/30's Boston Catholic Irish family. I read Glynna Kaye's Arizona books because I'd like to retire and live in her mountain towns. They just can't be only fictional. Too vivid.
I like many of Elizabeth Lowell's books because she will have beautiful, even majestic, settings mirror events that are happening in the story. Myra Johnson also did this to perfection in "Autumn Rains".
Two Seeker books that I really loved for the setting and which for me were really about the setting, were: "Red Kettle Christmas" about NYC in the late 1940's at a Thanksgiving Parade which I attended at the same time as in the story and Sandra Leesmith's "Where the Eagle Flies" which makes Lake Powell come alive in all the five senses. I've been on location and the book is like being back there again. That's an accomplishment.
I really loved my trips to Toronto -- all in the summer -- and I'm sure I would find your mysteries set there very much to my liking. My favorite detective is also named Hamish. :D
Vince
Thank you, Vince, that you find mountain country Arizona lingers in your mind! :)
DeleteAw, thank you for the mention, Vince! That's still one of my favorite stories!
DeleteHi Vince: I actually give a nod to M C Beaton in my Herringford and Watts series---- the detective manual (fictional ) they always refer to is written by former pinkerton M C Wheaton ;) Hamish's name was chosen partly for the strong Scotch representation I think of with a character like ( and who I also love) Hamish MacBeth but also because Dorothy Sayers believed the "H" in John H Watson, MD was Hamish. I thought that was fun to play with. I am so happy you have visited Toronto! I love it here! And thanks for the amazing book recommendations. I am always adding to my list and it is my favourite thing to do :-)
DeleteVince, I still love that story! I think of it whenever I'm in Manhattan which will be Thanksgiving this year! The farmer and I are heading downstate to see our youngest son's and then celebrating on Saturday back home. My first NYC Thanksgiving!!!
DeleteHi Ruth:
DeleteI sure hope you get to see the Parade. Those giant floats have to be seen for real. What I remember most vividly is the smells of chestnuts roasting from the street vendors. I wonder if NYC still allows that. Enjoy the Big Apple! Perhaps I'll see you on TV!
I read an historical book quite recently about the San Francisco earthquakes. The city was the predominant character I felt. The city knew disaster and development.
ReplyDeleteThat is a really fascinating period of history and one I love reading about. I love that the author of the books you read made a priority of setting it as a starring character.
DeleteHmmm. Settings are quite important; I just didn't realize how important they are and how they affect me (the reader).
ReplyDeleteI totally fell in love with Brighton, the imaginary kingdom, that Rachel Hauck created for her Royal Weddings series.
I think it is wonderful and imaginative when authors are talented enough to create their own imaginary worlds --- and even more wonderful when they paint them so well that the reader can imagine them, too!
DeleteTo me a story without a well planned out setting is like a cast of characters reading their lines waiting for the big production. Setting is extremely important. The late author James A. Michener was really into creating his settings. Setting so rich that you could almost feel, smell, touch, taste and hear everything that was going on around you.
ReplyDeleteI also loved the setting in Ruthy Logan Herne's book, Home on the Range, there is a scene that has stayed with me since I read the book last year. There is a forest scene in which I could smell the dampness and earthy smell of the forest. I could hear the Spring Peepers (tree frogs) and all my senses were engaged! I love it when an author can create a setting that becomes so real the reader doesn't want to leave.
Thank you for your post and I would love the chance to win a copy of your book.
Happy Birthday Seekerville!
Blessings,
Cindy W.
I am a huge Michener fan, Cindy. Huge. I still take lessons from Hawaii to use in daily life. Centennial... And I love Herman Wouk, too. Big stories, filled with real people, in real times.
DeleteLove 'em! Know wonder we get along!!!
And thank you for that nice shout out!!! I love those scenes in that story. I think they reflected the girls' struggles so well. Did you ever read Green Mansions? I've never forgotten being thrust into that woods as a child, I was immersed. When a book hits you so square that you never forget it, that's a wonderful thing!
Cindy--- you are so right about James Michener--- may I also add James Clavell ? both authors have such a wonderful way of painting their worlds with words. Ruthy's books are a great example of someone allowing worlds they are familiar with to seep into their settings :-) I really want to go and hang out at Ruthy's pumpkin farm sometime :-) thanks for commenting !
DeleteOpen invite to both of you!
DeleteNo Ruthy, I have never read Green Mansions. I'll have to look that up. And I would love to join Rachel at your pumpkin farm. I would love to meet those dear sweet donkeys too!
DeleteMay you all be blessed today.
Ruthy, is Green Mansions by William H. Hudson?
DeleteHi Rachel,
ReplyDeleteI too love setting, and the last book I read with a setting that stole me away to the past was "The Earl" by Katharine Ashe. I bought her book on a whim at RWA in Orlando, and from the first page, I was completely transported and engrossed. She used Scotland as well as the seasons as a way to amplify the characters and their emotions. An amazing book. I'm now reading the other books in the series. :)
I also write historicals and historical romantic suspense, and I've actually found some amazing YouTube videos people have taken and posted of some of their travels to my settings. It helps me to hear and see the sights and sounds of the area. I then layer those new details over whatever maps I've been able to find, and it's so much fun. The only downside is I can fall into the rabbit hole of "research" and totally loose track of time fawning over everything I've found.
I've just added you to my Christmas book wishlist...Herringford & Watts sound like they are right up my reading alley. :)
Thank you again for your great post and happy writing,
Jeanine
Jeanine, great tip about checking YouTube for videos showcasing a certain area. Thanks!
DeleteJeanine, you gave me a brilliant new source for research... YouTube. Thanks!
DeleteDefinitely worth checking out YouTube! I found a great old video there when I needed to know what it would have been like to pass through the Suez canal in the 1930s.
DeleteHi Jeanine! I just added the Earl to my Goodreads list! thanks for the recommendation :-) I haven't used youtube in the sense you mentioned yet-- but what a great idea. I do know I used it to find out what a 1912 telephone ring would sound like. I wasn't sure how we described it --- was it a clang? A jingle? --- I love youtube for research and so glad that a fellow historical romantic suspense writer uses it to her advantage :-)
DeleteWelcome to Seekerville, Rachel. As a child, there was nothing better than to be transported to a different world. That's what got me hooked on reading.
ReplyDeleteThese days, when I'm drafting a new story, the setting is always where I start first. Thanks for visiting!
I still recall those magical moments with a good book that transported me, as a child, to far off lands. #happiness
DeleteJill! Thanks so much! I was really thrilled when I was asked to come to Seekervile: a website I have read for years and years. Setting for me is one of my favourite parts about writing and reading so I am so glad you take the time in your own work :-)
DeleteThank you for bringing setting to the forefront. For some reason the Anne of Green Gables and The Secret Garden popped into my mind when you mentioned setting. How about the setting in The Chronicles of Narnia? I must have kids books on my brain this morning. I'm heading out to a children's critique group in a little bit. Have a great Saturday everyone!
ReplyDeleteBettie! The examples you mention are all wonderful because we can all attest to how reading can develop our imagination as kids. I used to try and find the Secret Garden in my own Canadian small town neighbourhood. It didn't matter that the "real" story was set an ocean away. Children's authors are blessed with an instinct that allows them to understand how keenly important world-building is for a child's imagination. Have fun at your children's critique group :-)
DeleteTotal agreement. Those images that stick with us stay for a reason.
DeleteRACHEL!!!! (Yes, I meant for that to be in all caps!) It's so good to see you here. Of course, you know I LOVE your writing. Let's see, the books I read that created a realistic setting are anything by Susan May Warren and Sarah Sundin. Of course with Sarah, I have studied her novels for how she layers in the setting to make my World War II London come to life. From clothes to gestures and the environment around the characters are all things I needed to pay attention to while I did research for my own novel. Even words or placement of objects in the home. Since my novel takes place in London, there are a number of differences to American homes. I don't want a British reader to pick up my book and shake their head that I did something wrong. Lots of work. I'm sure I'll have more as I pump out the novel next month for NaNoWriMo. Good advice Rachel. Til next time. God bless!!
ReplyDeleteHI KELLLYYYYYY! so happy to see you! Thanks for the nice words. I think you point out something so integral: reminding ourselves that it isn't enough JUST to look at authenticity and accuracy of time period --but also of place.... London homes are different from American and your future readers will love the time you took to differentiate them :-) You mention two authors who are continually skilled at creating authentic worlds. They are two of the bet in the world :-) I always like seeing you around ;)
DeleteKelly, I, too, thought of Susan May Warren!
DeleteHi Rachel, welcome to Seekerville and thanks for sharing. In the book I pitched at ACFW, my setting was rural Maine. I included lakes, forest and a cove full of yachts. It was beautiful and treacherous in my vision, and I hope the setting comes through.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great advice to include setting. Congratulations on The White Feather Murders!
Thanks, Jackie! It is nice to see you here. Rural Maine sounds like a gorgeous setting and one I don't get to read of that often so I wish you all success with your book :-)
DeleteGood morning, Rachel, and welcome to Seekerville! I do so LOVE settings that draw me in and linger in my memory long after I've put the book down! :)
ReplyDeleteGlynna-- thanks for dropping by! I am with you. I want to live in the book's setting for a long while after :-)
DeleteThanks for a great post! One of my all time favorite books is The Shell Seekers by Rosanne Pilcher. She made everything in that book - - from the seaside at Cornwall to the beaches of ibiza to the English countryside - - come alive for me. And for someone who's hardly traveled anywhere, and never outside the US, that's saying something!
ReplyDeleteThat was supposed to be Rosamunde Pilcher.
DeleteYes!!! she is a wonderful writer --- she makes me feel like I have seen parts of the world that I have never been to. I love that about reading-- we don't have to leave our homes to see the world! Thanks for stopping by, Glynis.
DeleteThanks for the great reminder about the importance of setting. A combination of a super late night with my teen and an early basketball practice send-off has me unable to think well. I do remember falling in love with "Stuart Little" partly because of the setting E.B. White portrayed. It was just a regular household but I felt like I was there. When he traveled to the big city and then through the country, each place's setting captivated me. "Charlotte's Web" takes place on a farm but I was right there with all the minute details he included. A fantastic children's biography on the author by Melissa Sweet, "Some Writer!" shows how E.B. White was able to make all of that come alive. Please put my name in for your book.
ReplyDeleteCathy, I remember being in the barn/barnyard with Charlotte! How I cried at the end of that story. The memory is still painful!
DeleteCathy: sounds like a busy weekend for you. Aren't children's writers gifted when it comes to creating place? I will happily enter you in the giveaway draw :-)
DeleteI do prefer accuracy in books, especially in a setting or subject I know about. If something has been deliberately changed for the sake of the story, I prefer it's noted in the end. However, I have loosened up some, thanks to Gerald Morris (author of the Squire's Tale series), who said something along the lines of "I had to choose to be faithful to history or faithful to my story . . . Just pretend it's historical, and maybe you will find something in the story that's real, which is not at all the same as accurate, and usually much better."
ReplyDeleteThere is a time for variance for certain!
DeleteRachael, that's a great quote. :)
DeleteRachael-- you are right--- an author's note is SO essential not only to show the amount of research but when liberties were taken and why. It gives great context. I love that quote as well :-)
DeleteRachel, this is something I try to do and could do better. I also admire the Thoenes for their command of setting, whether it's Berlin, Hamburg, Danzig or Vienna. "Vienna Prelude" inspired a bucket-list item for me of visiting the German/Austrian Christmas markets and attending a concert at the Musikverein. Haven't done it yet, but it's on the list.
ReplyDeleteWould love to read your Boston stories, that's special place for me. The nearest 'real" city to New Hampshire. I also spent some time there as a young adult.
Setting in my own books? Did copious research for my Oregon Trail and 1920s New York series. Maps, maps, maps.
My current WIP is completely different. It takes place in a small New Hampshire mountain town. I created my own town, but drew on elements of NH mountain villages I've been in, which is most of them. It's a fictional town but located near some real NH towns, to give it gravitas, and also near iconic places such as the Kancamagus Highway and the former Old Man of the Mountains site. I've had so much fun with this one, marking where the bank should be, the Old Library, the New Library, etc. And putting people in it, and businesses. This is supposed to be a series, so I'm laying the groundwork for the other two books and hoping readers will love Hilt0op, New Hampshire as I do.
Would love to win one of your books.
Working on WIP, back later.
K. Bailey
At Home in New Hampshire
Kathy, your setting sounds wonderful! I've only been to NH once to go skiing. We were in Henniker at Pat's Peak. Wow, it's been ages since I thought of that trip! I was in high school. I mainly remember the accents. haha
DeleteHi Kaybee! I also loooove the Thoenes! Your bucket list and mine are very similar; luckily I have been able to spend some time in Vienna and it is definitely a favourite because I spent my formative years reading (and re-reading) the Thoenes' books. I love reading about the Oregon Trail and 1920s New York sounds right up my alley. I am fortunate in that Boston is about an hour flight from Toronto so I can easily get there for a weekend. The first time I visited, I knew I wanted to use it as a character and I am SO fortunate to be working with it fictionally. I would love to read about historic New Hampshire and so I am very excited about your WIP! Aren't series fun? It means the world you create is one you can return to for a few books :-)
DeleteLove this post on setting. Jack London comes to mind.
ReplyDeleteYES!!!! he is a perfect example. My brother used to read him aloud to us when we were kids--- I still remember those vivid images :-)
DeleteIt was as if you entered the setting...
DeleteRachel, I loved this! I want to get better at description and world building and this post really pointed out some great tips. Thank you so much!
ReplyDeleteSherrinda--- It is a subject I really enjoy and, as I am always learning, I am sure I haven't mastered it yet --- but it is one of my favourite parts of the writing process.
DeleteHi Rachel,
ReplyDeleteI love your phrase: It is easier to embroider a place you know well.
I am going to print this article out.
Rose--- that is so flattering. Thanks for dropping by :-)
DeleteRose, I agree! I loved the way Rachel wrote her post so descriptively! Makes me want to read her books. :)
DeleteHey Rachel! As a reader, I love being drawn into the setting and experiencing the scene along with the characters.
ReplyDeletePlease enter me for a copy of your book.
Hi Caryl! I always love seeing you places :-) Absolutely you will be entered :-)
DeleteI love it when I can picture in my mind the whole setting. It's like I am living the story.
ReplyDeleteYes!!!! I am with you on this! one of my favourite experiences :-)
DeleteWilani, I agree. When I read, I get sucked right in to the story world. It's like I'm whisked away. (My family can't believe how I don't hear anything around me, even when they're calling my name.) And if the setting is done well, I go to that world even deeper.
DeleteHi Rachel, Welcome to Seekerville. Thanks for sharing your ideas for developing setting. Setting is always a strong point for me. I guess because we travel a lot, I like to imagine all the things that have happened in that setting. Have fun today and thanks again for helping us celebrate our anniversary.
ReplyDeleteSandra--- thanks for dropping by! I was so thrilled to be invited. I share your passion for travel --- and there is something so amazing about walking and exploring and waiting for something to pop out :-)
DeleteThese days, I slip into Amish mode so easily. The clip-clop of horses' hooves, the gentle sway of the buggy, the smell of a wood burning stove, the creak of the bent hickory rocker...
ReplyDeleteThanks for a delightful post, Rachel! I recently spent time in the Holy Land. Scripture became even more meaningful, if that can be, as I walked in Christ's footsteps. I go there in prayer now, recalling the sights and smells that take me more deeply into the Bible stories.
Debby, what amazing opportunities for travel you have had. The Holy Land must have been awe-inspiring for spiritual reasons ;but also must have made your imaginative wheels turn :-) I really want to slip into your Amish setting now :-)
DeleteI write contemporary suspense, but while in the Holy Land my mind started thinking of Biblical stories I wanted to write! :)
DeleteSeems we always "what if?"
I thrive on the what ifs of life!
DeleteDebby, you should go for those Biblical stories!
DeleteRachel, I developed a love for books as a child not only for story and character, but for setting. Setting transported me through time, space, and around the world. So as a reader and a writer, I love to research and discover events and places that are practically unknown and bring the story to life. Setting affects the story and character. It IS a main character.
ReplyDeleteA historical series I recently finished is the Maggie Hope series by Susan Elia MacNeal and begins in 1940 London just before and then during the Blitz. I felt as though I lived through those perilous days with my heroine, a young American woman born in Britain who is recruited by British intelligence. I've read 5 of the 6 books written so far. Spies, murder, treachery...it's got it all...but the setting and attention to detail pulls you into the pages of every book.
Please enter me in the drawing for a copy of The White Feather Murders. Thanks!
Barbara, this sounds like a wonderful series!
DeleteHi Barbara! So nice to see you here! I have to say, I too love the Susan Elia MacNeil books--- I think she is a fine mystery writer and I love falling into Maggie's world :-) Thanks for dropping and sharing my love of being able to explore the world from the pages of a book :-)
DeleteWelcome, Rachel! Lovely to have you as our guest today, and thanks for all the excellent advice about using settings to their best advantage.
ReplyDeleteHot Springs, Arkansas, is a setting I've returned to several times in my novels. I became fascinated with the area, particularly the history, during many years of vacationing there. Walking the streets, visiting historic buildings, and poring over photos and documents at the historical society really fueled my imagination!
The White Feather Murders sounds fascinating! I'll have to add your books to my TBR stack!
Thanks, Myra! I have read several of your novels so your Hot Springs comes immediately to mind. Funny story--as a Canadian kid--- I read the word "Arkansas" long before I ever heard it pronounced ( What is it that they say about knowing you have found a reader if they mispronounce a word but in the right context? lol) and so for a long time, I pronounced it phonetically .... and got a lot of snickers. So nice to see you here :-)
DeleteHi Rachel. Fantastic post! I do adore settings that are done well. I'd heard of Big Stone Gap, Virginia under rather unusual circumstance and was curious about this rural town. When I googled it I found an author had actually written a story with Big Stone Gap as the setting. I LOVED the book. Adriana Trigiani's story made me feel like I knew the place and the folks living there.
ReplyDeleteThis is an area I am working to strengthen in my writing.
Thanks for sharing today!
Kathryn, Adriana Trigiani is a favourite of mine. She has such a gift for painting generational stories and for exploring the Italian influence on small town america, like she does in Big Stone Gap ( I LOVE that book). What I particularly like about her work is how it shows that setting influences character. Those who are living in America having left Italy behind, still feel the stamp of their earlier surrounding. Thanks so much for dropping by :-)
DeleteGreat post, Rachel. I am finishing up my first novel which is set in a fictional town in Nebraska (where I live) and centers around a tornado. So setting is important and I'm trying to make good use of it.
ReplyDeleteI have recently read two contemporary novels by Lisa Wingate--Prayer Box and Sisters--that make great use of the setting of the Outer Banks of North Carolina. John Grisham has also used the Outer Banks in his fiction. So it obviously makes a wonderful setting. I have been to the Outer Banks and definitely agree that it makes a good setting.
You mentioned looking at a modern setting and stripping away the modern to see the past. I did that yesterday when I was visiting my grandparents' old town. I drove through the downtown street, trying to figure out where the old grocery store used to be that I would visit with my grandmother. I saw a couple store fronts that might have been it.
Please put me in the drawing.
Sandy, it's interested you mentioned the Outer Banks. I've thought about visiting there and maybe using that setting because I love to read about it!
DeleteHi Sandy! I have not read about Nebraska as much as I would like to so I think this is wonderful and I look forward to watching you writing journey. John Grisham is a favourite of mine--- I have been reading him since I was a kid and I always loved how he was able to paint the American South-- a world so different from my own and a world I could easily get lost in. Lisa Wingate is a wonderful voice and a great painter of setting. I, like you, love to walk through historical neighbourhoods ( even if not for research, but for fun) and so I loved that you did that visiting your grandparents' old down--- I bet that made them seem even closer to you ---connecting with their past in the way you did. Thanks so much for dropping by :-)
DeleteKaren White also does a great job of bringing the setting home to the reader... She and Lisa Wingate are two of my favorite contemporary authors.
ReplyDeleteMine, too, Ruthy! They are amazing.
DeleteYes! I love Karen White! she is fantastic. As is Beatriz Williams--- with whom she sometimes collaborates. Lisa Wingate is a master--- especially in creating the world of Before We Were Yours :-)
DeleteI was reading the comments and Karen White came to mind. She always sets her stories in delightful East Coast areas involving water. Then I came to Ruthy's comment.
DeleteDoes anyone remember Anne Rivers Siddons? She wrote about the Outer Banks too. She grew up in Fairburn, GA, just a hop, skip and a jump from where I live. Now she makes her home in Charleston...one of my favorite cities!
Hi Rachel, this post really resonated with me as a historical writer. Thanks so much for all these tips on setting. I have a question, and suspect the answer is anyone's opinion, but I'll ask it anyway. Is it possible and/or advisable for an author to brand herself with setting. As in "writes stories of the Ozark Mountains in the late 1800s", then use that setting in many books. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for being with us in Seekerville today.
ReplyDeleteCindy, I think that's a great idea. Granted, it can be hard to break out of that if you ever wanted to. But I think it can be a great way to make a name for yourself.
DeleteHi Cindy--- so hard with branding, eh? You hear so many different perspectives of it. I will tell you this--- as a reader, I am drawn to setting so I appreciate knowing upfront what the author's wheelhouse is. Indeed, Ozark Mountains in the late 1800s sounds fascinating to me and that brand would definitely make me seek you out :-)
DeleteWelcome, Rachel, and thank you for sharing with us today. As a writer, developing a good setting is my favorite part of planning my story, so I appreciate this post. I tend to have stories set in small Southern towns (much like the one where I grew up) so of course I adored Jan Karon's Mitford series! :)
ReplyDeleteThanks again for sharing!
Blessings from Georgia, Patti Jo
Patti Jo, where did you grow up?
DeleteThanks, Patti Jo! I am so happy to be here. Jan Karon is a fabulous example of an author with a wonderful sense of world building. Hello to you and your beautiful State!
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Rachel, welcome to Seekerville! So fun to have you here today. :-) (LOVE seeing your FB updates. And I've decided something. You've inspired me to be more daring - how do you think I'd look as a redhead? hahaha)
ReplyDeleteI enjoy learning about your stories and travels and how you incorporate history into your work. You make it look easy!!! (Okay. I know, I know. ;) )
Setting is huge for me. I want to taste, touch, feel, smell, SEE the setting. You know an author has done her job when you're so drawn into a story, it's as if we are there, too, living the story as it unfolds. Thanks for all the wonderful tips!
Please toss me in for The White Feather Murders!
Congratulations on your fabulous books ~ Cheers! *clink*
Hi Cynthia! I AM SO EXCITED TO BE HERE!! Hahahaha my facebook is so funny and random--- I am surprised people hang out there at all LOL. I am a natural blonde who always wanted to channel Anne Shirley ---so I have been a redhead about five years now. It is so fun!!! It is a huge compliment that I make it look easy so thanks! I will happily toss you in for White Feather! And thanks!!! In this day and age, there are so many fortunate happenstances that go into contracts and I am just happy to be able to pursue my love for history in a unique way :-)
DeleteRuthy, thank you for hosting Rachel today!
ReplyDeleteRachel, I have found a 'new to me' writer! I will definitely check out the Herringford and Watts series. I visit Toronto regularly, and would like to know more about what it was like :-)
Setting is very important to me because I appreciate when the setting helps shape the characters -- their attitudes, insights, humor, beliefs. When I think of setting as a character I immediately think of the town in To Kill a Mockingbird, the area of North Carolina in Drums of Autumn, and our own Tina's town of Paradise. I've read many a book because I was curious about the setting :-)
Do please enter me in the drawing.
Nancy C
My granddaughter is reading To Kill a Mockingbird in her 8th grade advanced English class. We discuss it whenever we're together. So fun to have her reading books I loved in my youth!
DeleteHi Nancy! Thanks for dropping by. So neat that you know Toronto. And I agree with To Kill a Mockingbird--- that book has such a wonderful sense of place --- Maycomb County is a place I feel homesick for ---the best kind of feeling. Fun fact: because I am such a huge fan of "Mockingbird", I always wanted to use the name Jem in a series. So, in Herringford and Watt --- Jemima Watts ---my Watson character-- mostly goes by Jem. Happy to enter you in the drawing. Thanks for stopping by :)
DeleteI love it when the setting comes alive in a book and I feel transported there! Many Sparrows by Lori Benton and A Moonbow Night by Laura Frantz are historical ones that I loved for the amazing sense of the wilderness.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the recommendations, Heidi!
DeleteBoth are two EXCEPTIONAL examples! Those authors are really dedicated to making sure their worlds are built so evocatively and with such a poetic sense of place :-)
DeleteRachel, welcome to Seekerville. Thanks for the terrific post on the importance of creating a setting that is as vivid and important as a character. Your word choice is so lovely.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I try to do is show settings through the characters's eyes. What they see depends on their mental state and what's going on.
Janet
Great point, Janet!
DeleteJanet, that is such an important point and a great way to start thinking about character. In my first series, I created a character---Ray DeLuca--- who views my city, Toronto, with the same passion I do--- down to writing some pretty laughable poetry about it. Each character will have a relationship with their surroundings in a different way. And that is such an amazing point :-) thanks for dropping by :)
DeleteRachel, thanks! I love it here in Seekerville. It's my kind of town with tree lined streets packed with a bookstore, library, cafes and coffee shops where writers and readers hang out. There are boutiques with unique clothes for book signings. A happy place for sure.
DeleteLady detectives and World War I? Sounds like an exciting romp in my favorite setting - mystery and history. Great to meet you, Rachel, and thanks for a helpful post on world building.
ReplyDeleteDana, it sounds like a good combination, doesn't it?!
DeleteThanks, Dana! Yes! My first series spans from 1910-1914 and takes my girls to Orchard House (home to Louisa May Alcott) even to Chicago (those were some fun research trips!) to stop an assassination attempt on Theodore Roosevelt. I always intended to draw in the Great War -- especially as Toronto entered the moment Britain did, in fall 1914. Thanks so much for dropping by :-)
DeleteRACHEL!!! Soooo good to see you here, my friend, and GREAT POST!!
ReplyDeleteSO great, in fact, that I just spent the last 30 minutes writing a humongous comment that Blogger ate. Sigh.
So the benefit for YOU is a considerably shorter comment, so God does work all things out for our good, indeed, or yours anyway! ;)
My main point I wanted to make is to say that one of the authors who I think is incredible at creating setting that becomes like another character in a story is Laura Frantz. In fact, so much so, that I remember every one of her settings VIVIDLY, and feel the mood of that setting whenever I reflect on that book. SO much so that I stated in one of my reviews for her books that setting rose to the rank of another character, and it is SO true!! And I think our own Mary Connealy does that too. :)
Great post, Rachel, and your 1930s Boston book absolutely calls to me ... ;)
Hugs,
Julie
Julie, Heidi just mentioned Laura, too!
DeleteJulie, your Boston series is a favourite!!!!!!!! Laura is a very favourite of mine ---as is Mary. I am sorry blogger at your comment; but I am so glad you dropped by. :-)
DeleteHello Rachel.
ReplyDeleteI'd LOVE to travel more so I can get a feel for setting. It seems most places I go is the country. Earlier this week my husband and I stayed at Beaver's Bend. We went fishing in the river. Uh, we went wading, but didn't have waders. That's another story. Anyway, the scenery was absolutely perfect. We took a picture of the cliffs above the water and there's no way to tell where one ended and the other began. Gorgeous.
I've often wondered what is was like for the Indians and settlers who lived or traveled through the area. How did they not get lost???
Even if I visit cool places, I still struggle getting the mood across.
Loved this post!
Hi Connie! The country is a great place to travel and I bet you have several stories --- sometimes the most magical moments are made in places some people wouldn't imagine book-worthy; but an author and experience can make them jump off the page. Like your anecdote about waders--- that sounds like an awesome story :-) I think, as a commenter mentioned earlier, that the mood differs from person to person and character to character. So, your experience will be completely different than another's and that is what is so magical about writing. I am so happy you dropped by :-)
DeleteI loved this post, Rachel. I smiled reading about 1910 Toronto. My husband is from north Toronto and we go a couple times a year (near Yonge and Eglinton.) It really is an amazing city!
ReplyDeleteSetting is something I want to improve upon because I think it adds to much to a story. I'm from just outside Quebec City and I live in Vermont. My books are set in those places because I adore them. There's nothing like the green mountains of VT or wandering around old Quebec, especially la basse ville. The issue for me is writing so that it's not a geography book or overly sentimental.
Do you have any resources you'd recommend to strengthen that story world-building?
Josee! How cool !!! I am not that far from Yonge and Eglinton as I live in Forest Hill near Casa Loma. I agree that it is an amazing city-- but so is Quebec--- you feel like you are stepping into a bit of Europe without leaving Canada. I have to say that for me my greatest resource has been a lifetime of reading. In any and all genres. I have never taken any writing courses or seminars and every time I end up attending a conference like ACFW, I always miss the workshops I signed up for and socializing (I am a bad student lol). So what I might recommend is reading in and around the genre you want to write in and making notes of what authors build worlds well. How do they do this? Is it the way they describe stores and sights? Is it the way the characters interact with the setting? Alternatively, if you are reading a book and cannot get a sense of a place you know or have visited, what would make it more immersive. Have a great weekend! :-)
DeleteWow, you just reminded me of a resource I had forgotten about, Josee. Sepia Town. It's a pictoral / historical map.
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Thanks, Tina!
Deleteoh wow! this is incredible!!!!! I love the cities featured here. Thanks so much, Tina :-)
DeleteThanks! Great resource!
DeleteNancy C
Not to date myself but I spent quite a bit of time in Toronto in the seventies. Oh, wait! I did age myself. I was studying criminal justice and we did one field trip to the Toronto Police Department. The thing I remember is the cabs looked like police cars and the police cars looked like cabs.
ReplyDeleteAnd I bought a great pair on clogs on Yonge Street on one trip.
Tina! So love that you spent time in Toronto. One of my heroes in my Herringford and Watts series -- is a Police Constable in the early years of the Toronto Police. Jasper Forth! He inspired me to research a ton about the history of the police force here. When I was a little girl growing up in a small town ( where my parents still live) I only ever dreamed about moving to the big city and strolling down Yonge Street. And now I cannot imagine living anywhere else. Thanks for dropping by :-)
DeleteHi Rachel, I love historical fiction and part of it pertains to the settings that the authors so vividly describe. Thanks for your giveaway.
ReplyDeleteBlessings!
Connie
cps1950(at)gmail(dot)com
Thanks for dropping by Connie! Happy to make sure you are in the giveaway :-)
DeleteThe first stories that sprang to mind that I've read recently and have drawn me into their world are My Fair Godmother and My Unfair Godmother by Janette Rallison.
ReplyDeleteThanks for these tips. As a fantasy writer I know the importance of creating a realistic world. Right now I'm writing about an island that has been plunged into an eternal winter, and so I've been studying the customs and cultures of Ireland which is what I am basing my island off of.
I've found that drawing maps helps me figure out what my world is like. After I drew a map of my world Amar I knew what climates the separate areas had, where there were forests and rivers, and what type of countries there were.
I have never heard of Janette Rallison and will have to look her up. Thanks, Nicki. I have such respect for fantasy authors and the diligence they take at creating and mapping their worlds. I am so in awe of your talent for creativity :-)
DeleteLove books that put you right there in the middle of the scene. Ghost Heart by Lisa Harris takes you right into Africa and grabs a hold!
ReplyDeleteYes!!! those are the best types of books!
DeleteHey Rachel,
ReplyDeleteGreat points. There is NOTHING like going to the place(s) and absorbing/noting even the smallest details, plus interviewing people intimately associated. It really makes a book.
TripAdvisor is wonderful, as are several other travel sites. Your point about reading through the comments is so true! :)
And Google Earth... It's kinda scary actually, in some respects (hey - my Schnauzer and I write spy novels!) but yes indeed. In May's 2nd story, set in present day Paris, I was able to grab a 360 degree view of EXACTLY where I wanted to set some of the scenes: Cimetière de Passy.
The info was at my fingertips before I set foot there during my research trip. Invaluable!
Isn't Paris wonderful? How wonderful to be able to map it out before setting foot there... .something I recommend all travellers do anyways--- get a feel for the setting and the metro (find where your hotel is, where you are going to go ) and it takes away some anxiety ( especially for me as a woman who usually travels alone) when you finally reach your destination. I am so happy that you dropped by and now I have to google Cimetiere de Passy. THANKS May and KC for dropping by :-)
DeleteHi, Rachel. Welcome to Seekerville! Thanks for the tips (don't put me in the raffle since I'm already getting a copy).
ReplyDeleteYES YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU MADE MY WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteMy pleasure. :)
DeleteRachel, settings can be such fun in a book. I recently read on inspirational suspense where Terri Reed used an old house to provide a Gothic tone (a la Nancy Drew). I'm reading a book set in Scotland (Susana and the Scot) where Sabrina York is using the setting to show the hero being put in the proverbial doghouse by the heroine when she headquarters the hero and his men above the kennels in the stable. Thanks for reminding me of the importance setting can have in creating atmosphere and a world the reader wants to return to over and over again.
ReplyDeleteHi Tanya, settings are such fun!!!! Thanks for dropping by :-)
DeleteLoved your post, Rachel - thank you!!
ReplyDeleteJulie Lessman's setting for her Isle of Hope series - Isle of Hope, Ga. - was so enticing to me that I googled it to learn more about it and it's location. On my way home from a vacation trip a couple of years ago, I made it a point to visit Isle of Hope - including the street that many of the characters of Julie's series lived on. It was surreal - I imagined her characters would come running across their lawns to me at any minute!! I took many pics of that beautiful setting to further the wonderful memories I have of it.
I love when books inspire travel dreams! It means the author did the best job of creating a sense of a place you want to visit. So happy you got to fulfill that dream of seeing the place you had imagined :-)
DeleteGreat post, Rachel! Thank you!
ReplyDeleteRuthy's Double S Ranch series brought me into the setting very well.
May God bless you and all of Seekerville!
Thanks for dropping by, Phyllis :-)
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