If you’re a writer, you probably have dozens of books about plotting on your shelves. You might even have a few that specifically target the romance genre. I’ve bought ‘em all over the years, and I can say with certainty – there are very, very, very few ‘how to’ books on plotting that adequately explain the unique difficulties of plotting a romance novel.
All that stuff about characterization, journeys, acts, arcs, hooks and beats – all that stuff is important, sure. But I’m talking about the unique, specific aspects of writing a romance novel. The issues that are often overlooked or glossed over.
Because most genres have one main character, the majority of ‘how to’ books are written for a single protagonist. The hero (OR heroine) takes a journey. Singular. Thriller novels, suspense novels (NOT romantic suspense), horror, YA, women’s fiction—these genres usually have a dominant, single protagonist*. Think—Jack Ryan, Jack Reacher, Kinsey Millhone, Katniss, Jason Bourne, Harry Potter, Bridget Jones, Offred. There’s a clear, single protagonist. (If someone has ever told you that you’re writing women’s fiction and not a romance, a dominant or singular protagonist may be part of your problem.)
*Disclaimer, we can all name exceptions to this rule in every genre, but I’m speaking in generalities.
During the early days of the modern romance novel, the story was told almost exclusively from the viewpoint of the heroine. Not anymore. Romance novels these days contain the male POV, and this change means an author must plot using two protagonists. I know, I know – you’re thinking, “duh”. Except plotting with two protagonists comes with a unique set of challenges.
The first challenge in writing a story with two protagonists is deciding ‘who’ owns the story. Most people assume the female lead always owns the story in a romance, but that isn’t always the case. The person who ‘owns’ the story is the person who has the most to lose.
Which brings us to the second difficulty in plotting a novel with two protagonists: Each protagonist must have opposite, preferably honorable, goals in perfect conflict with each other. This is easier said than done. In A Temporary Family, the heroine wants to travel the world and have adventures in order to prove to herself that she’s not ‘the pampered baby of the family.’ The hero wants to live on a remote stagecoach relay station, because socializing exacerbates his PTSD symptoms.
The most important part of any romance novel is the internal conflict, and romance writers have two sets of internal conflicts to pit against each other. Many of us may have gotten the note ‘more conflict’ from our editors. While a lot of people will describe conflict as ‘two dogs, one bone’, I prefer the to use the phrase, “I can’t love him because…I can’t love her because...”
In The Rancher’s Christmas Proposal, Tessa can’t love the hero, Shane, because her checkered past makes her feel unworthy. Shane can’t love the heroine, Tessa, because she only married him to care for his children, and he’s already been in love with someone who didn’t love him back—he’d rather not repeat the experience.
The better the conflict, the better the book. The better the conflict, the easier the book is to write. The better the conflict, the easier the pitch. If your middle is sagging, it’s because you don’t have enough conflict.
Unfortunately, finding ways to put two good people in equal, yet opposite, conflict is hard. Not, ‘phooey I burnt the muffins hard’, but ‘building a pyramid in the desert with nothing but a slingshot’ hard. Because not only do you have to give your protagonists opposite goals that make it impossible to get together, you have to make it possible for them to get together.
First, the possible:
After you decide ‘who’ owns the story (Protagonist #1), decide on their worst nightmare.
That’s Protagonist #2. In Pride & Prejudice, Lizzy Bennet’s worst nightmare is a stuck-up aristocrat. Mostly because Lizzy worries she might be just a tad unworthy herself. Her family is a touch eccentric and only on the edge of social acceptance. Enter Mr. Darcy, Lizzy’s worst nightmare.
Second, the impossible:
Put your hero/heroine through a series of challenges that force them to confront their worst nightmares, and move them toward the center. Mr. Darcy helps Lizzy’s family—even though he thinks they’re vulgar and crude—because helping her family helps Lizzy. In turn, Lizzy has to accept this help and acknowledge that she was *gasp* WRONG about Mr. Wickham AND Mr. Darcy. Eee gad.
Sounds easy. It’s not.
When people mock me for writing romance, I always agree – I should have picked an easier genre. I *wish* I wrote simple books with a single protagonist and a single goal. How nice would that be?!
(*Warming - shameless namedrop alert)
I had a chance to meet Margaret Atwood at a fundraiser a while back. My friend introduced me and said, “She’s a writer too!” I cringed, thinking, “Oh boy, here it comes. The sneer. The polite pivot toward a more interesting person.” Instead, Margaret asked about my publisher, then spoke warmly and respectfully of people she knew in the industry. (I had no idea who she was talking about. I just nodded and held my sweet potato puff. Those puffs were AMAZING!)
Later in the evening, someone asked if it was ‘easier’ to break into publishing if an author wrote in an ‘easier’ genre, like, say, romance. Again, Margaret politely, but firmly, smacked the MAN who asked the question back into his place. She spoke of how educated and discriminating romance readers are, (despite New York Times op-ed pieces to the contrary), and she spoke of how difficult it was to plot and maintain fresh, inventive conflict in the most competitive genre in the industry.
This stuff is hard. Real hard-- reasoning with a two-year-old about the benefits of naptime --hard.
I could go on for pages, but here are a few deceptively simple things to remember when plotting a romance, that aren’t always included in the ‘how to’ books:
Decide who has the most to lose.
That person owns the story. That’s Protagonist #1.
What is Protagonist #1’s worst nightmare? That’s Protagonist #2
Once you have Protagonist 1 & 2, you should easily be able to answer the questions:
I can’t love him because…
I can’t love her because…
If you can’t easily answer those two questions, your conflict needs more work.
Someday I’ll write an entire book on crafting conflict specifically for novels with the two-protagonist structure, but we only have time for the basics. (I say ‘someday’ because I’m not that smart. I’m still learning myself.)
Again – all that other stuff is important too. Read: Writing with Emotion, Tension, and Conflict by Cheryl St.John. Study Techniques of the Selling Writer by Dwight Swain, read: Romance-ology 101 by Julie Lessman. All the pieces have to fit together.
What are some other complications that are unique to writing a romance novel?
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Sherri! Welcome back to Seekerville. I am enamored of your latest release. Gorgeous cover.
ReplyDeleteAnd finally someone addressing the fact that we have TWO PROTAGONISTS in our stories.
Thank you.
The hardest part of my job is finding the right virtual snack for each of my wonderful guests.
Today I'm going with Salted Caramel Chocolate Muffins
Arbuckles Coffee is on!
Mmmm....I'm loving the snack selection!
DeleteIsn't that little baby adorable? I just wanna smooch those cheeks. My kids think I'm weird, but I tell them, "You'll understand once you have your own kids."
Thank you to Seekerville for having me!
DeleteHi Sherri, I'm so glad you chose to write about plotting. I'm not a great plotter and appreciate any insight I can glean.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to apply your " deceptively simple" rules to my current WIP and see if I can help it along.
I brought some fresh blueberry muffins and hot tea for all the night owls. Dig in folks.
When I'm struggling with a book, it's almost always because I didn't spend enough time thinking about those 'simple' questions that aren't simple at all!
DeleteI read M.M. Kaye's autobiography (recommended). At one point, she had written a couple of novels (mystery and children's) and thought "Oh, I'll sit down and toss of a romance novel." (I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist.)
ReplyDeleteAnd she tried to write a romance novel. And failed.
I cannot find my copy of the particular volume of her autobiography, but she wrote something to the effect of, "Don't even try to write romance if you don't love it. It isn't as easy as it looks."
(I don't think she considered her romantic suspense novels to be romance so much as mystery. )
I love reading author bios and auto bios..thanks for the heads up Evelyn!
DeleteYES! And romance readers are savvy. They can spot a fake a mile away.
DeleteOk so first of all I had to look up what "protagonist" meant...I've seen it bandied about and had no clue what it meant (insert clueless reader). I think it's just a word you writers use to go right over our heads....lol!! Just joking on the second sentence :-) Once I understood what it meant, then it all made sense.
ReplyDeleteI agree Sherri, all the romance books I read have two. I've read many examples of how the hero/heroine can't possibly love one another for (most of the time) opposite reasons. And they have to work through those to find middle ground and whalaaa, love is found! Ok, so I know it's not that easy, but I hope you get my point. It's one of the reasons I read romance, two people overcoming whatever fear holds them back from loving each other & finding common ground that helps open up their hearts. It's a beautiful thing to watch :-) I love the HEA but what I love more, is the journey they travel to get there!
I had to laugh reading your post! You have such a fun sense of humor...just for example: "This stuff is hard. Real hard-- reasoning with a two-year-old about the benefits of naptime --hard." That made me laugh the hardest because I remember fighting my kids when they were that age (give or take) to take a nap...haha! I just love your writing and how you insert your own sense of humor in it. As you know, I've read "Mail-Order Christmas Baby" so no need to add my name to the pot. Folks, you are in for a real treat with this book....Grace (the baby on the cover) will steal your heart ;-) Well, along with the two protagonists!
Terri, thanks for the muffins and I'll take a cup of chamomile tea since I'm heading to bed in a few...thanks so much!
That's what keeps up flipping pages, isn't it? Thinking, "How in the world are these two people going to work this out?!"
DeleteKids...my favorite was the, "I'm not sleepy!" and ten minutes later, they were snoozing. I'd think, "I want a nap!"
Sherri, thank you for the post! Would you be so kind to tell me what to do with the mismatched socks? :) It appears, when I do laundry, one of the pair always disappears...lol
ReplyDeleteThank you for the opportunity to win!
LOLOLOL!
DeleteLOL! I have the solution, but it's a little involved....you adopt an adorable little white fluff ball puppy from an animal shelter that adores socks. Then you ball up all the mismatched socks in a basket. When your adorable puppy feels like playing, he attacks the basket. It's totally worked out for our family :)
Deletemmm, not wanting to point any fingers here, but that little white fluff ball didn't help create some of those mismatches, did he? We have culprits in our household.
DeleteLOL :) I can't show this post to my kiddos...they are begging for the puppy. I think my hands are full right now as it is: with four kids, five if I count my hubby. Need to find another solution...
DeleteAs a reader fresh & unique is not only welcome but expected. Yes, a HEA is applauded, but let's not make it easy for the protagonists. I love the 'struggle' and the dance.
ReplyDeleteAs authors, we have to torture, torture, torture those little darlings!
DeleteI loved this post Sherri! Thank you. I do love to read romance because of the two protagonists and I love to see their conflicts resolved and romance blossom.
ReplyDeleteI absolutely LOVE the cover of Mail Order Christmas Baby. The baby is so adorable. Thank you for the chance to win a copy.
Blessings,
Cindy W.
I really enjoyed when romance books made the switch to including the male POV more often. I like that insight and I think it adds depth to the story :)
DeleteThis is a great post, Sherri. I've printed it for my Seekerville notebook. Coming up with ways to keep the hero and heroine together in practically every scene can sometimes be a challenge. Thanks for visiting today.
ReplyDeleteHappy birthday Julie!!!!!
A Seekerville notebook...great idea! I keep thinking I'll remember which posts I want to revisit or which posts I've bookmarked, but I'm already planning a day to go through the archives from the past couple of months because I want to review some important things I just knew I'd remember! LOL
DeleteOooh...that's inspired! I bookmark things and then forget about them....but a notebook...that's a wonderful idea.
DeleteHi Sherri,
ReplyDeleteI loved your post this morning. Not only did you make me laugh, but the suggestions you provide for making sure you have enough conflict are so helpful. I added them to my own writing notebook, just like Jill did! :)
The hardest part of romance novel writing for me is keeping the pacing and plot/emotional arcs even. I tend to plod through some chapters and then rush through others without realizing it until I get feedback from a contest judge or my CP, Tanya. :)
Any suggestions you have on that is greatly appreciated, especially since I'm a pantster and resist plotting like a two year old resists a nap. :)
Happy writing,
Jeanine
Pacing is tough! Writing is tough :) I think it's especially difficult because most folks want the story to start out with a 'bang'.... then you have to keep upping that emotion and tension.
DeleteGoal/Conflict/Disaster for each scene helps pacing.
Tina recommended Lynette Eason's Wrangler's Corner series for great examples of G/C/D done right.
I am in love with that baby and that cover. OH MY STARS!!!! STINKIN' ADORBS!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm sighing, gazing at it.
And smiling!
Isn't she a doll?! I gave the art department pictures of toddlers in present boxes, and they came through beautifully!!
DeleteSuper post. I love it when someone can explain something complicated in a straightforward way. You just did that for me. I enjoy your historical novels. Keep them coming. Please throw my name in the drawing. Have a blessed day.
ReplyDeleteAhhh, thank you! I'm going to miss my westerns, but I'm excited about branching out into suspense.
DeleteSherrie, I love that the new fun trend of wearing mismatched socks saves time... and socks. YES. Double win on the farm! When my boys were little, the socks were always disappearing, so I think I might have set the TREND.... I'd give them one white sock with red stripes on top and one with green stripes on top and call them Christmas socks... and they loved it.
ReplyDeleteYes.
You heard it here first.
I MIGHT HAVE CHANGED THE SOCK RULES AS WE KNOW THEM!!!
Take that e off your name.... egads, I can't believe I added it. Go ahead and get even by spelling my name with an "ie" instead of "y". I'll suck it up because I deserve it. ;)
Delete(Sherri is impossible to spell! My grandma used to spell it wrong. Not making that up! If Grandma can't get it right, I don't expect anyone else to ;)
DeleteYou are always a trendsetter Ruthy! I think it's funny because my daughter never embraced the mismatched sock trend. All her friends wore the cutest, most colorful socks. Not Jocelyn. Socks match. She didn't get that type A personality from me. Must be her dad...
Hi Sherri and welcome to Seekerville. What a great post. I never thought about the fact that romance has two protagonists and other genres only one. I guess I just took the two for granted. And you are right. It is tough to keep that conflict real and interesting and for both. Great post Sherri and very helpful. Thanks again for joining us. Have fun today.
ReplyDeleteIt's a really complicated extra layer of conflict, isn't it?! The author has to up the conflict for *two* people, for both the internal and external motivations. That's hard. We don't get nearly enough credit!
DeleteHi Sherri!
ReplyDeleteReally good stuff here! You are so spot on with the two view points. Good job! (Like you really need affirmation from me!)
How exciting changing your branding next year. Did you write the books this year? When will your first suspense come out?
I always need affirmation from Rita-nominated authors :) You should be teaching this stuff!
DeleteI'm finishing up my first suspense this month--no release date yet, but it's contracted. I'm also plotting a six book Alaskan series.
I'm having so much fun it's a little embarrassing. The suspense is a new and wonderful challenge!
Good morning, Sherri! Thank you for the tips on two-protagonist stories. So many of the craft books and workshops are about a single hero/heroine, not the combination. And it's so important that both have strong GMC and growth journeys, not just one or the other. You can't have one just "going along for the ride" on the other's story journey.
ReplyDeleteBooks cover the two-protagonist structure, but I think the process could be a book on its own. That's complicated stuff. I'll say it a thousand times - we don't get enough credit!
DeleteSHERRI, thank you for the great post. As a reader, I enjoy learning more about the craft from an author's perspective.
ReplyDeleteHello, Caryl! I bet if you look at your favorite books/authors, you'll see that they've done a great job of creating sustainable conflict. It's a skill :)
DeleteSherri, your tips about two protagonists made me think about things I didn't know I needed to think about. I love when that happens! By the way, don't we often hear in the industry something like..."If there's a book you'd like to read but can't find it, write it"? Maybe that's what you need to do with the topic of this post. :) Thanks so much for sharing!
ReplyDeletePeople like Cheryl St.John helped me boil it down...when I see complicated explanations, my eyes cross.
DeleteI feel like I'm not good enough to write about the process...but maybe it would help me get better!
I've never thought about it this way, but yes, the best romance stories follow this recipe. Even the not so good ones do, but generally I'm left wondering why they can't love the other one since the reason seems so trivial...guess they needed more conflict! :)
ReplyDeleteYeah - have you ever read a book where you think, "If you two just have a conversation, you'd be fine" ? That's frustrating for readers.
DeleteThen you find authors like the Seekerville gang who do it right and you think, "Whoa! That's how it's done."
Exactly!!
DeleteSherri! Good morning! This spoke to me: The better the conflict, the better the book. The better the conflict, the easier the book is to write. The better the conflict, the easier the pitch. If your middle is sagging, it’s because you don’t have enough conflict. Yes! I need to work on this. When you write that book on crafting conflict specifically for novels with the two-protagonist structure please let me know. I'll be the first in line to read it!
ReplyDeleteTina and I were joking that we need that tattooed on our fingertips so we never forget while we're writing! <>
DeleteSherri, I laughed at the man's question about easily becoming a writer by choosing to write Romance. LOL. I wanted to write Romance, studied it hard, tried it...and couldn't. Somehow I found it easier to write ... wait for it ... biblical fiction or mystery. Your intricate poste reminds me again of just how much skill is required to write great Romance.
ReplyDeleteYou picked equally challenging genres--biblical fiction & mystery :)
DeleteThere are no shortcuts in writing, are there? All writing is difficult for different reasons - but it makes me crazy when people think romance is somehow 'easier'. Nothing is easy in this business!
Sherri, that cover is gorgeous!
ReplyDeleteI remember those days you speak of - the ones where the story was primarily told from the female's POV. It was great when we could finally get into the hero's head, too.
I loved everything about what you said regarding conflict. THAT is so hard. I always make myself think... "Okay. What's the worst thing that can happen?"...and then take it up a notch...or ten! Which is hard, because gahhhh! I hate conflict in real life and tend to tiptoe around it.
In a recent story, I stepped out of my comfort zone. I allowed the heroine to achieve her long-held dream of building the business she always wanted...and then...unfortunately...her dream business went up in flames (literally). At Christmas. Then she lost the guy. But...that's all I'll say for now. :-) (Judges loved it! haha)
Please toss me in the drawing! (My name anyway.)
Thanks so much for all the insight! CONGRATS on your new writing adventure.
Judges? Pshaw. READERS are going to love that story! That's brilliant. Torture, torture, torture those little darlings.
Delete(Sometimes I'll pick up some of those 80's romances at garage sales. The old Silhouettes. The writing was wonderful, but some of the tropes..yikes...We've come a long way, baby!)
Sherri, welcome back! Your post is packed with wisdom for romance writers. It's not easy creating a second protagonist that's the first protagonist's worst nightmare. We have to know our #1 protagonist really well to create a second protagonist that's his or her nightmare. But as you say, when we do, the book is so much easier to write. I find that creating internal conflict is far easier than external conflict. Is one easier than the other for you?
ReplyDeleteLove your covers and the sound of Mail Order Christmas baby!
Janet
Thank you for having me! I find the internal difficult - which is a weakness. That internal conflict is key. (Which you do brilliantly, by the way!)
DeleteSherri, thank you for your sweet words. I'm fascinated that you find the internal hard. This is probably the reason there's co-authors of books. :-)
DeleteI love the premise of your Mail Order Christmas Baby! Care to share how you came up with such an original, fun idea?
Janet
Hi Sherri, congratulations on your new book and your new endeavor in 2018. How do you see adding suspense affecting the question of who has the most to lose?
ReplyDeleteThanks!
Thank you, Jackie! That's a great question. I think it's still the same - it all goes back to the internal stuff. The flying bullets are all external! But I'm still learning...
DeleteWhoa Sherri! One question answered all of mine! Wow! Who has the most to lose- I heard answers just clacking into their little places. Thank you!
ReplyDeleteYou share one of our family hobbies. Both my daughter and granddaughter collect unmatched socks- and they WEAR them!
As for me—hmm, now why did I come into this room. Yup, I get it.
Best wishes and many blessings on your new adventure.
Thank you, Barbara! I learned everything from Cheryl St.John. Her 'how to' book is fabulous:
DeleteWriting with Emotion, Tension, and Conflict
Great post, Sherri! You've given me a lot to mull over as I plot my next book - some things I hadn't thought about before. :)
ReplyDeleteI'm saving your post for reference!
I read YOUR books to see this stuff done well!
DeleteSherri, you just simplified what I've been making so hard in my writing journey! Thank You!
ReplyDeleteEmotion, tension, conflict...they are my toughies...I can't bring myself to torture the h/h enough.
I'm next in line behind Sally when you write your book on conflict. And, I have many Seekerville binders!
Would love to win your book, that baby is too cute!
Blessings,
Marcia
Good morning, Marcia! I love those light bulb moments. Writing is hard, hard work. It's not for the faint of heart <3
DeleteI just read an old Intrigue. Literally 10 pages of hero internal then the first dialogue. The heroine's POV didn't show up until chapter 5. The author part of me noticed all of this. The reader part of me..not so much.
ReplyDeleteBut boy did she have internal conflict. External, not really. It was clear it was the hero's story.
Things have changed as stylistically in novels, but the bottom line is still, make us care, make us worry. And this book sure did.
I know--you read some of those books and think, "This would never fly today." Not that they're not good books! But things change. Head hopping drives me crazy. Big names can get away with it - but it's a deal breaker for a lot of publishing houses for new authors. I can sometimes get into the story and let go, but usually it pulls me.
DeleteThis is great stuff, Sherri! I'm just settling in with a new story and trying to figure out all this stuff about the characters and conflict. Perfect timing for me!
ReplyDeleteAnd these two statements . . .
I can’t love him because…
I can’t love her because…
. . . while I usually establish my story conflict with those thoughts in mind (at least subconsciously), boiling it down to the essence like this helps me clarify things even more. Thanks!
LOve that approach, Myra. Where did you stumble on that?
DeleteThank you, Myra! I find if I can't answer those questions easily, I probably need to go back to the drawing board...
DeleteAre you seriously asking me that, Teenster???
DeleteSherri: Your column today is so great for us trying to write for the LI line. I am aiming at LI Suspense and there are two protagonists. So your information is very relevant for me and I’m thinking deeper about the revision of my novel using your great question to determine who has the most to lose. Hmm. Very good point. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteOooh, a fellow LIS writer! I've got one contracted, but I still feel like I'm in the aspiration stage. Nice to meet you, Suzanne.
DeleteThis was amazing! Thank you so much! I knew I had 2 protagonists and couldn't figure out who the story belonged to and now I do! I love this site so much!
ReplyDeleteI'm glad something resonated! Anytime I find something that helps, it's a blessing :)
DeleteHi Sherri! Thanks for being with us today. Great topic. I love conflict. You're so right about sagging middles needing more conflict. And, as you also mentioned, more conflict means a story that's easier to write. Not easy, mind you. But easier! :)
ReplyDeleteWhen my story hits a snag, I always look at the internal conflict for my hero and heroine. Often a slight change of direction can provide the lift that moves the story forward.
Can you share some information about your upcoming suspense stories? You know that's a genre I love.
Hugs! I've brought pumpkin pie to share. Oh my golly! Thanksgiving is right around the corner!
Thank you for having me! Mmmm...pumpkin...after October 31, it feels like the Holiday season flies by!
DeleteI've always loved the concept of the double protagonist. Though, it doesn't have to be limited to just romance- I have several stories that follow two girls and their friendships (and the multiple layers of a conspiracy they find themselves on either side of and need each others' help to prevent).
ReplyDeleteExcellent point! There are definitely plenty of ways to put two people in conflict :)
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ReplyDeleteThanks for the great post this morning.
ReplyDeleteAnd I love that Margaret jumped to defend romance. I loaned my sister a LIS book while on vacation. She read it the whole thing while on the plane and then made mention it was a good, but simple book. I'm like, a good author makes is looks simple.
Exactly! As you are sweating out those 55K and trying to get in GMC and emotion on every one of those 55K pages and the romance arc and a bit of faith too. Hello!!!!!
Delete*A good author makes it look simple* EXACTLY!
DeletePlus - I'm with Tina. It's 55k words. We make the stories feel big in a remarkably low wordcount.
Good morning! Tina, I love yoursnack choice for today and Sherri, I enjoyed your topic for today's post. I can't imagine having to concentrate on two characters. I especially appreciated Margaret Atwood's reaction to the gentleman who commented about authors of romance. As a young mother who was also a farmer/milkmaid/seamstress and chef extraordinaire the only books I really had time for were my Bible, Sunday School teacher manual & Harlequin romances that I could check out from the library. After I started working at the library I often had a patron comment that they didn't read "those romance books". I have always respected the talents of those authors and even though I choose Love Inspired and other Christian authors, I enjoy a good romance.
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing your thoughts. Your book looks lovely!
Blessings!
Connie
cps1950(at)gmail(dot)com
Thank you, Connie! We romance writers and readers are underappreciated!!
DeleteSHERRI!!! Welcome back to Seekerville, my friend.
ReplyDeleteAnd, WHOA, I'm with Connie and you -- God bless Margaret!!
You said: "The first challenge in writing a story with two protagonists is deciding ‘who’ owns the story. Most people assume the female lead always owns the story in a romance, but that isn’t always the case. The person who ‘owns’ the story is the person who has the most to lose."
SO glad you said that because I have a penchant for falling in love with my heroes, so they may not always own the story, but they often share it with the heroine. And in some case, steal it away from the heroine like in one of my books where I had a Billy Graham-like character who had the most to lose. So, you nailed it, my friend.
Hugs!!
Julie
You write GREAT heroes!!!
Deletehi Sherri
ReplyDeleteI just LOVE, LOVE, LOVE your books and this post is great. I've never thought of romance as a two protagonist genre. Eye opener. Your list sounds simple and I know it will help me.
All your covers are so cool. Blessings on your romantic suspense venture... I look forward to seeing your work there too. :)
Ahhh, thank you, Deb! That made my day :)
DeleteThere are definitely other genres that use multiple protagonists, but I think romance is unique in how the protagonists are pitted together, but have to have a happily ever after.
Sherri, what a great post! I have never thought about the questions you bring up. Which protagonist has the most to lose? That's whose story it is. I am working on a women's fiction story with two protagonists. I can't use your exact questions ( can't love him/her because . . . ), but I'm going to mull on this and tweak to see what I come up with for this story. :)
ReplyDeleteLoved your post!
Thank you, Jeanne!
DeleteHmmm....what about, "I can't achieve my goal because..." I'm not as familiar with women's fiction, but it seems like they should have a goal to drive the story...I'll keep thinking!
Yes, they both will have goals. It's a sister story. The theme is discontentment. The story is a lot about relationships, so I can possibly tweak those questions in a way that still helps with relationships, if that makes sense. The sisters are the protags.... :) I'm going to think on it too.
DeleteOh my goodness! You nailed it! Every craft book and workshop I've gone to, I always say "My story has 2 protagonists. What do I do?" I love your tip. Protagonist 2 is Protagonist 1's worst nightmare. Brilliant! Can't wait for that craft book!!!
ReplyDeleteI like to keep it simple! It's the ol' KISS method - Keep It Simple Stupid :) Tongue in cheek, of course!
DeleteSo Sherri, list your top 6 Craft books. I'll show you mine if you show me yours!
ReplyDeleteoh oh oh! I want to see those too!!!
DeleteOkay -
DeleteWriting with Emotion, Tension, and Conflict by Cheryl St.John.
Techniques of the Selling Writer by Dwight Swain
Romance-ology 101 by Julie Lessman.
GMC by Debra Dixon
The Complete Writer's Guide to Heroes and Heroines: Sixteen Master Archetypes by Tami Cowden
Break Into Fiction, Mary Buckham
Your turn!
DeleteWe had 3 the same! I added:
DeleteThe War of Art by Steven Pressfield
and
On Writing by Stephen King
Great post, Sherri, thank you!
ReplyDeleteTina, your comment above made me laugh :) But I'm clicking the notify me box because want to see too :) Though I mostly write nonfiction, maybe if I knew more about how to effectively write fiction I'd give it another go.
May God bless all of Seekerville!
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
DeleteTina always makes us LOL :)
DeleteGreat post, Sherri. I'm writing a book that isn't a romance but has four POV characters. I only hope I'm doing it right. It's tricky for sure.
ReplyDeleteThat's a challenge! Four POVs. That's awesome :)
DeleteOnly a craft book JUNKIE has six craft books as their top picks. And in fact we have so many that picking six is torture.
ReplyDelete1. Michael Hauge DVD The Heroes Two Journeys (counts as a book!).
2. Deb Dixon GMC
3. The Emotion Thesaurus Ackerman & Puglisi
4. Writing with Emotion, Tension & Conflict by Cheryl St. John
5. The Creative Writer's Phrase-Finder by Edward Prestwood
6. Swain's Techniques of the Selling Writer
6b (hhahahaha cheating) Understanding Show Don't Tell by Janice Hardy
Good ones, Tina! You left off one of my faves, The Moral Premise, by Stan Williams.
DeleteExcellent book that I am not smart enough to deal with.
DeleteTina, I just read one...Writing Romantic Fiction by Barbara Samuel...she won 7 Ritas!!! It's the first craft book I've read all the way through.
Deletehttps://www.amazon.com/Masterclass-Writing-Romantic-Fiction-Yourself/dp/1473600421/ref=sr_1_12?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1509651082&sr=1-12&keywords=Writing+Romantic+Fiction
Thanks, I'll check it out, Marcia. Oh, you know I'm going to buy it. hahahaha
DeleteHahahahaha
DeleteForgot to say the new Emotional Wound Thesaurus is looking good, too!
One of the first craft books I ever read (and loved . . . and should probably read again) is The Art of War for Writers, by James Scott Bell.
DeleteThe Moral Premise went over my head! That's probably a sign of something not good..We had three out of six the same!
DeleteJeanne - I'm adding that as #7. I completely forgot about The War of Art. GREAT book every writer should read.
DeleteAnd On Writing by Stephen King had a lot of good stuff.
Hi Sherri:
ReplyDeleteOh, if only romances only just had two protagonists! It's when there are three or more that 'reader-conflict' really comes into play!
What if there are two heroes and you didn't want the heroine to pick the she chose? What if you identify with the hero and the heroine selects the other guy? Where's your HEA then? What if there are two heroes and you don't want either one of those two nice guys to pick her? (I've had all the above happen to me in my romance reading.)
And what about the 'virtual' proganist? I read one where neither the hero and heroine ever wanted to get married. Her arc came along just fine but even near the end of the book the hero was still debating if it would be better to go back into the Army! (Was she ever getting a bargain?) The Army was the third protagonist just as sometimes the 'career' is the third protagonist.
I think the big problem with writing romances is that readers become connoisseurs. A romance is like a gourmet meal. There is no 'who done it' as in a mystery. There's only the: 'is it going to be good enough for my taste?'
Romances are like hot fudge sundaes. Readers want them to be the same, only different. Remember that sign in the printing office: "The difficult is done immediately. The impossible takes a little longer."
That's it: give the reader her wonderful hot fudge sundea experience, with that same delicious HEA aftertaste, only make it different.
And believe me, after reading hundreds of romances, (eating hundreds of sundaes) that reader is an expert. If an author makes a little mistake in a Regency, those savvy readers will have her hide!
My kind of conflict:
I like multiple streams of conflict which can be in opposition to each other. I want the reader to believe that the hero and heroine are totally justified for how they feel. I want there to seemingly be no solution to the problem. Finally I want the solution to seem. from hindsight, to have been inevitable. (The reader really should have figured it out before the end.)
It's not actually 'who done it'… it's more 'how in the world is this author going to get to the HEA in a way I have not thought of and that is not a genre cliché.'
BTW: I just loved your "A Temporary Family" as having the most creative conflict I've read in years. For a lot of the book I sympathized with the hero: "What does a guy have to do to just live on his own and get a little peace?"
I would also add this: "The one who owns the story is the one the reader has the most sympathy for. "
In Betty Neels' romances the heroines are so sympathetic, that I was willing to jump into the story and marry them myself!
Who does the reader care most about?
Vince
P.S. write that plotting book. It sure is needed.
'Readers want the same, but different' SO TRUE!!!
ReplyDeleteThat's funny - *I* felt bad for the hero in A Temporary Family (so glad you enjoyed that book!) I tortured that poor man :)
Sherri, I so appreciate that you tackled the MORE than one protagonist issue! And anyone who thinks writing romance is easy...well...GRRRR.
ReplyDeleteWe don't get enough credit! This stuff is complicated :)
DeleteOh my Sherri, these tips are exactly what I needed while I write my NaNoWriMo project which is, "gasp" a romance. I do have two protagonists and they have similar goals but for opposite reasons. I am going to go back and look to see if protagonist #2 is #1's worst nightmare. Thanks so much!
ReplyDeleteYeah!!! A NaNoWriMo!!! Happy writing :)
DeleteI never would have thought writing romance was easy! I have always been impressed by women who can come up with the plot and problems that seem to mesh so well and story lines that aren't used up already. It IS hard for them, I'm sure!! You ladies have always had my admiration for it. :)
ReplyDeleteThank you, Susan! I'm amazed at my fellow authors. There are a lot of smart ladies (and gentleman) writing romance out there :)
DeleteHi Sherri,
ReplyDeleteI devour every writing tidbit offered and your suggestion to ask who has the most to lose is a great idea. I've read your historicals. Congrats on the jump to suspense. Glad to know your name will still be on the shelf out there.
It's a simple but effective question, isn't it? I was lucky to learn at the feet of the masters!
DeleteSherri, it's so good to have you today!! What a fantastic post! I totally agree about how difficult it is to deal with two protagonists. And I love how you broke down the steps for getting the basic conflict.
ReplyDeleteHaving enough conflict is still such a struggle for me. I'm still learning! Must practice, practice, practice.
Thank you for having me, Missy! I definitely struggle with getting that conflict. My critique partners hold me accountable....I'll get a wonderful *external* conflict...and they'll say, "Hmm...what's the internal."
DeleteSherri thanks for spending the day with us. This was not only fun, but hey I bought a couple of new craft books. Praying for continued success for you as you transisiton to your new subgenre!!!
ReplyDeleteBooks....mmm....I love ANY excuse to buy books! Thank you for having me :)
DeleteSuch an interesting post, Sherri. I've never thought about it from the point of view of "who has the most to lose" - but that makes perfect sense. Thank you! Wishing you all the best with the romantic suspense - looking forward to reading them.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Laura! It's been fun writing suspense. 'A change is as good as a rest', as the English say :)
DeleteInteresting post, Sherri! I'm not writing a book that is specifically romance (there are romance elements but they are in the background) but I do have multiple protagonists, and it's difficult having to give everyone an important piece of the story.
ReplyDeleteMultiple protagonists is challenging! But, hey, we writers love a challenge ;) !!
DeleteSherri this is great. Even if you think you're on to romance novel writing this is a great way to think of it, to clarify the fundamentals of your book, PITCHING the book.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to remember this. Love the "Who Has the Most to Lose." Love the "Worst Nightmare."
That's how we should all pick our spouses - find your worst nightmare and work it out :)
DeleteGreat post! Writing two protagonists IS hard work! I was just thinking about this the other day as I tried to figure out why my h/hn in my current wip are the worst and the best for each other. Something that can carry the whole story.
ReplyDeleteNow off to see if I can apply today's lesson!
PS... The Mail Order Christmas Baby sounds like an ADORABLE story! :)
Thank you for hosting me, Pam!
DeletePeople say 'opposites attract' - but I like to think that we're attracted to the things we're missing. It's a thought :)
Fabulous! Love what Margaret Atwood said!
ReplyDeleteHey, Eva, long time no see!
DeleteI realize Margaret's subject matter isn't for everyone, but she's an incredibly smart, engaging, wise woman!
Thanks for this post, Sherri! The 'worst nightmare' is a great tip.
ReplyDeleteNancy C
I was telling people we should all pick our spouses that way...find our worst nightmares. LOL!
DeleteThanks for sharing. The books sounds great.
ReplyDeleteI heard great things about this book. The cover is so cute.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Kim!
DeleteThank you for this. I'm going to use that simple --but deep -- line of questioning for my NaNo novel. Thanks!
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