Tuesday, September 22, 2009

Sleuthing In Seekerville



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by Colleen Collins and Shaun Kaufman.



We loved being invited to blog for Seekerville because that’s what we, as private investigators (PIs) do for a living: seek. Every day we seek information about people, places, and things:

  • People who’ve disappeared, moved, or committed/witnessed crimes.
  • Places where events occurred, evidence might have been left, or people can be found.
  • Things that are evidence, contain clues, or reveal data.
Besides both of us being writers, we also teach classes to writers on a variety of investigative topics at www.writingprivateinvestigators.com. Therefore, we thought it’d be interesting if we elaborated on five investigative questions we’re most often asked by writers.

Most-Asked Question #1: Do All PIs Carry Concealed Handguns?

Answer: It's interesting how many people assume PIs carry guns. We don't (our stun guns are sufficient), and we know many other PIs who don't carry as well. Yet it seems the majority of PIs in movies, books, TV shows them wearing/using guns. A few years ago, there was a best-selling novel starring a junior PI (she'd just started work in her relative's PI agency) and she carried a Glock in her glove compartment. The premise of the story was that her relative couldn’t trust her to take on any serious investigative jobs, so she'd been relegated to hunting down an occasional cheating spouse or a lost cockatiel—and for those jobs, she carried a Glock? For us, that seriously stretched the story's believability.

But many fictional PIs do carry firearms, and if the author makes it credible, it makes for a great read. Robert Parker's female PI Sunny Randall comes to mind. A former cop with grit and smarts, it's plausible and nail-biting when Sunny pulls out a rifle and blasts the bad-guy as he trespasses her front door, leaving a bloody crime scene in her own living room.

Just keep in mind that under the conditions any real-life PI would legally carry a firearm, so would a fictional PI. That's not saying all fictional PIs have to conform to the letter of the law—in a recent novel by Julie Leto (Dirty Little Secrets), her PI was prohibited by law from carrying a firearm, but she did anyway (which said a lot about her character, and also created some amusing scenes as she attempted to keep the gun a secret).

Keep in mind, too, that in the real world armed PIs rarely (if ever) get into the kind of gunplay seen in fiction. Many PIs will tell you that if gunplay or a fight breaks out, it indicates an investigator isn't doing her job well. When a surprised client asked PI Jim Rockford (from the Rockford Files TV series) why he didn't carry a gun, he said, "Because I don't want to shoot anybody." After all, the primary guiding forces for any investigator are stealth and discretion.

Most-Asked Question #2: When Does Surveillance Become Stalking?

Answer: Let’s start with checking the ethics in one’s motive for conducting surveillance. If the surveillance performed serves a purpose of obtaining information that PIs usually obtain, then courts will uphold rigorous surveillance. A few years ago, an individual in Michigan sued Henderson Investigations for a violation of the Michigan stalking law for actions the investigators took during an insurance surveillance. The PI firm fought the case all the way to the Michigan Supreme Court, which agreed with the PIs that “surveillance by private investigators contributes to the goal of obtaining information and amounts to conduct that serves a legitimate purpose. Even though plaintiff observed the investigators following him more than once, this is not a violation of the stalking law.” (In summary, the Michigan Supreme Court dismissed the lawsuit outright and never allowed it to the stage where a trial was held.)

Contrast this with a situation where a PI is hired to simply “put the muscle” on a witness or opponent in a lawsuit. Repeated contact in the absence of an information-gathering purpose is a road sign indicating the on-ramp to stalking and illegal harassment.

Most-Asked Question #3: Is It True that PIs and Cops Don’t Get Along?

Answer: We get this question a lot. PIs and police both feed at the same trough of information, and because they are competitors for information (especially from witnesses) they sometimes clash. These clashes can include withholding information from one another; however, if the right personalities are involved and trust is abundant, then an atmosphere of cooperation and sharing is possible and can produce significant investigative results.

For example, a few years ago, the NY police cooperated with local PIs to break a theft ring in the garment district.

Most-Asked Question #4: In movies, TV, and in books, PIs break the law all the time—do real-life PIs ever do anything illegal?

Answer: Not if they want their evidence to be admissible in a court, nor if they want to keep their license and their reputation. Dirty PIs may make a case, but they burn a career.

But let’s turn this around to writing fiction–imagine how it bumps up the stakes and tension if a fictional sleuth, knowing he/she is committing a felony, does it anyway. They illegally track with a GPS, knowing the consequences if they get caught, but they’re doing it for a compelling reason (to save a child, for example). Adds complexity and tension to the story, doesn’t it? Or they go into the gray zone and purchase that illegal cell phone software as a last means to track a killer. As a writer, knowing what’s legal or not for your protagonist sleuth helps you crank up the stakes and add plausibility.

Most-Asked Question #5: Who do you think are the most realistically portrayed PIs in books or other media?

Answer: We’re often asked this, and it’s a tough one to answer because too often books (and other media) add flash and drama to make the PI protagonist seem bigger and badder than how he/she might really be in the real world. For example, searching public records is a cornerstone of a private investigator's skill set, but it's pretty tedious work (hardly worthy of a TV show).

This isn't a PI, but both of us love the Jesse Stone character in recent made-for-TV movies (starring Tom Selleck as Jesse Stone). He's a police chief in a small town, and his crafty, persistent, insightful approach to investigations feels very right-on to us.

We're both diehard Rockford fans, even though no PI in their right mind would do lengthy surveillances in a shiny gold muscle car (talk about sticking out!). Nor do PIs get embroiled in the quantity of violence and lengthy car chases Rockford does. But if you peel that away, he's a hard-working, blue-collar character that reminds us of many PIs.
We’re big fans of authors Reed Farrel Coleman and Sean Chercover—both create three-dimensional, compelling, realistic PIs. Interestingly enough, Reed Farrel Coleman never even spoke with a real-life PI while creating his fictional PI Moe Prager, but we’re guessing his research with a retired NYPD homicide detective helped him make Moe Prager (who’s a retired cop turned PI) very realistic. Sean Chercover, on the other hand, is a former PI.

One of Colleen’s favorite PI short stories ("Death Flight" by Ed McBain) stars a tough PI (Milt Davis) who's filled with doubt about handling a particular case because he thinks he's unqualified. And, in truth, he is (which also happens in real-life private investigative work). Milt Davis’s grit, native intelligence, and determination to see a job through make him a realistic PI.

Thank you, Seekerville, for inviting us to be guest bloggers.


Any questions, feel free to comment and we’ll answer. All who comment will be eligible for two giveaways: a “Writing PIs in Novels—Keeping Sleuths Real on the Page” T-shirt (size L only) or a free class (Crime Scenes, Homicides, & DNA in October, Surfing the Web and Digging for Dirt in November, or Trials 101 in December) from http://www.writingprivateinvestigators.com/.

Winners’ names to be picked Friday, September 25.


Bios:

Colleen Collins http://www.colleencollins.net/ is a PI by day, a multi-published author by night. Her articles on private investigations have appeared in PI Magazine, NINK (Novelists, Inc.), and other publications. A member of the Private Eye Writers of America (PWA), Mystery Writers of America (MWA), and Romance Writers of America (RWA), she's written 20 novels for both Harlequin and Dorchester and has spoken at conferences and workshops about writing private eyes in fiction. She and Shaun teach classes to writers at writingprivateinvestigators.com and blog about investigative trends and techniques at Guns, Gams, and Gumshoes

Shaun Kaufman has worked in and around the criminal justice field for over 25 years, as a former trial attorney and a current investigator. He's published articles in PI Magazine, the Denver Law Review, and authored numerous briefs for the Colorado Court of Appeals, Colorado Supreme Court, and the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals. Shaun is a popular speaker at conferences, entertaining and educating writers with his insights and expertise about investigations, crime scenes, how PIs effectively testify in trials, and more.

33 comments :

  1. What great information! Thanks for the post!

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  2. Good morning all. Welcome Colleen and Shawn. The coffee is on and we have Krispy Kremes in your honor.

    What is your most important tool? Possibly a camera? What kind do you use?

    What other surveillance equipment is essential on the job?

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  3. Collen and Shawn,

    Thanks for the interesting post. It's always nice to know if occupations are protrayed true to life both in books and movies.

    Here is my question: What are your case loads like? Do you work multiple cases or one at a time?

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  4. Very interesting. My current hero is a PI, but in the 1880's. They called them private detectives then, in the days of the Pinkertons. He's a troubled guy with a very sad childhood. I found out a lot about him when I did the Donald Maass workshop at the conference. :-)

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  5. Really interesting information! I've also loved private investigators in books and on TV, but it seems it would be hard to write because there's so much to learn. But great fun to read.

    Thanks for visiting Seekerville today.

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  6. I'm so excited about this post. I have a detective turned PI in my current WIP. One of the things I'm having trouble with is figuring out what motivated him to leave the police department to go out on his own. What would be the advantages/disadvantages of the job?

    And you've already mentioned a few types of investigations you do, but this guy's small town Montana. Besides infidelity what other crimes might he investigate.

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  7. Shaun and Colleen, thank you so much for this insight and your web info!

    I love writing cop books. Using PI's is just a quick step left (or right, if you're a Republican!!!)

    :)

    Your examples are packed with quick, concise advice and I love James Garner as Jim Rockford. Oh mylanta, the part was made for him, and it's blue collar realism rings true.

    I'm grabbing a Krispy Kreme glazed, maybe two. They go down easy. And I'm watching as questions and answers bounce back and forth. Thanks so much for being here today! Tina, great coffee. Thanks, bud.

    Ruthy (trying to be white space user-friendly for Deb and others on hand-held devices, a concept Ruthy finds fascinating. Mostly because I'm labeled THICK when it comes to hand-held anything other than Kleenex and coffee.)

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  8. Hi Colleen and Shawn. I have a question, is it true that in real life a huge portion of PI work is just following cheating spouses?

    And are there big, shiny PI companies and small, slightly shady one man shops? Or are they all small.

    Like calling the Orkin Man-who shows up with a uniform and clip board and company truck, or just calling the local bug guy who shows up in his own car with tanks in the trunk, for an exterminator for your house?

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  9. Colleen and Shawn ... WOW, what an intriguing post! I don't write or read PI stories, but you made me want to! Thanks for coming to Seekerville!

    My all-time favorite PI was Magnum, but you don't mention his authenticity as a PI ... how does he stack up ... and Columbo? Pure Hollywood or is there some credible PI stuff going on there?

    Thanks!
    Julie

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  10. Hi Colleen & Shaun,

    This is so great! One of my characters in a previous book was a private investigator hired by the heroine to find her birth parents. She wanted secrecy so her adopted family members wouldn't find out.

    Have you ever had a case like that? And how would you go about solving it - if you had the name of the birth mother?

    Thanks for your help and info!

    Cheers,

    Sue
    sbmason (at) sympatico (dot) ca

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  11. Our visitors have opened up another set of questions.

    Do you do bounty hunter type work or bail bondsman type work at all? Thinking Janet Evanovich/Stephanie Plum here.

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  12. What awesome information! Thanks for the post (and the KKs, too, Tina :)

    I love investigating heroes and heroines of any type and really love your examples, Shawn and Colleen!

    Steph

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  13. Good morning, everyone! Lots of great questions--we'll start from the top with Tina's:

    TINA'S QUESTIONs: >>What is your most important tool? Possibly a camera? What kind do you use? What other surveillance equipment is essential on the job?<<

    COLLEEN: As Shaun and I specialize in different areas of our investigative businesses (although we also share some tasks, too), I'll answer first: I'm the computer person, so my most important took is that. As to surveillances, #1 most essential tool is a camera (of which we have a stash). As to other essential surveillance equipment, a good surveillance vehicle and a pad & pen for taking notes.

    SHAUN: Most important tool is a camera (Canon digital is my favorite). Other essential surveillance tools: on occasion, I'll use binoculars & an XM radio to keep me occupied :)

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  14. Good morning, Rose. To answer your question >>What are your case loads like? Do you work multiple cases or one at a time?<<

    Answer: We work multiple cases at a time and have worked already worked on three this morning.

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  15. Hi Nina,

    To answer your questions:

    QUESTION: What would be the advantages/disadvantages of the job?

    ANSWER: Looking at your scenario of a police officer leaving that field to become a PI, the advantages would be autonomy, working one's own schedule, not being subject to the restrictions of constitutional limits on government employees' actions, the ability to earn an income outside of the government pay schedule, not having to deal with jerks for bosses. The disadvantages: Not having colleagues to work with on a ready basis, not having subsidized government equipment, not having a steady income & benefit package.

    Maybe others, but those were off the tops of our heads.

    QUESTION: And you've already mentioned a few types of investigations you do, but this guy's small town Montana. Besides infidelity what other crimes might he investigate.

    ANSWER: Here's some ideas--insurance fraud, process service, loss prevention (including livestock), criminal defense investigations, background checks.

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  16. Thank you. That was extremely helpful. I'm reading this with great interest. Do you by chance also wolf shift? I needed some info there as well. *wink*

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  17. Good morning, Mary! Below are your questions, our answers:

    QUESTION: ...is it true that in real life a huge portion of PI work is just following cheating spouses?

    ANSWER: Funny you mention this...we're currently teaching "Your Cheatin' Heart: Infidelity Investigations" in our online classes, and one of the legends we address is the public's perception that most of a PI's work is cheating spouses (or infidelity investigations). Actually, there are many, many fields of investigative specializations, and infidelity is only one. However, a sizeable number of PIs seem to end up conducting infidelity investigations in one way or another (such as in child custody cases, alimony cases, or in states that have at-fault divorces).

    QUESTION: ...are there big, shiny PI companies and small, slightly shady one man shops? Or are they all small.

    ANSWER: There are a few big shiny ones, a lot of small shiny ones, and only a very few small shady ones.

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  18. Oh! This makes me what to write a suspense novel with PIs...how interesting. I've always loved 'solving mysteries' but never felt capable enough to create a really good one (that didn't involve I Spy and 5 year olds) :-)

    Thanks for sharing your expertise.

    Pepper

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  19. Hi Julie,

    QUESTION: My all-time favorite PI was Magnum, but you don't mention his authenticity as a PI ... how does he stack up ... and Columbo?

    ANSWER: Oh dear, we don't recall the Magnum shows that well. But Columbo irritated us with his constant going back to the witness and asking another question...in real life, you can't keep going back and pestering a witness because the truth is, your best shot is that first shot. A witness can get cold feet and refuse to talk to you again, or get "lawyered up" and you can't talk to them again, or they get irritated and refuse to talk to you again.

    Not that we haven't had the need to talk to a witness again, we have...but we know we're taking a risk when we do that the door won't open.

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  20. Hi everyone,

    We're needing to get back to our work, so we'll check in later and pick up where we left off answering your questions.

    Thanks for the hearty welcome, see you later, Colleen/Shaun

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  21. Good morning! I came out to check for BIAW updates and saw this. I'm forwarding the link to my youngest daughter who is very intriqued about doing this type of writing. Thanks for so much information. What a great post!

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  22. Hi Colleen and Shawn,
    Thanks for the great info. A PI course is offered at a night school not too far from where I live. It's rather expensive and runs about three months. Since I write suspense, I've wondered if I should make the commitment. Do you think a PI class would be beneficial for a writer?

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  23. Hi! Welcome to Seekerville....

    What an interesting post! My sister and I always were good at being "detectives" when we were little. Everyone else said we were just being snoops! : )

    I LOVE reading mystery and suspense and that goes diddo for movies. I'm sorry if they're not very realistic, but they make great entertainment! Lol....

    Thanks so much for joining us today!
    Hannah

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  24. Great information. Thanks for sharing.

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  25. Hi Sue, below we answer your questions:

    QUESTION: One of my characters in a previous book was a private investigator hired by the heroine to find her birth parents. She wanted secrecy so her adopted family members wouldn't find out.

    Have you ever had a case like that? And how would you go about solving it - if you had the name of the birth mother?

    ANSWER: We typically hire out such cases to PIs who specialize in finding biological parents. However, on occasion, we've helped people. We approach it as we would other locates--first compiling information, then starting searches based on the data at hand.

    In such cases, after finding the person, we'd contact him/her first and explain we'd been hired to find them, the reason why, and the name/contact info of our client so the "found person" has the option on whether or not to make contact.

    Why? Because everyone has an expectation of privacy. We explain this to our clients up front so they know that even if we locate someone, it's up to that person to contact them. In other words, we don't release people's address/phone numbers (other person info) except when it's legally permissible such as for an active court case, a judgment, or for service of process related to a court case.

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  26. Hi Tina, re your questions:

    QUESTION: Do you do bounty hunter type work or bail bondsman type work at all? Thinking Janet Evanovich/Stephanie Plum here.

    ANSWER: No. Bounty hunters and bail bondsman each require certain licensing. btw, for those in the Denver area, Bobby Brown (Dog's bailbonds-sidekick on Dog the Bounty Hunter) is our guest speaker at the next Rocky Mountain Mystery Writers meeting (Wednesday, October 7). More info: http://www.rmmwa.org/Calendar.html

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  27. Hi Debby, we posted your question and our answer below:

    QUESTION: A PI course is offered at a night school not too far from where I live. It's rather expensive and runs about three months. Since I write suspense, I've wondered if I should make the commitment. Do you think a PI class would be beneficial for a writer?

    ANSWER: You sound like we planted your question in the audience as we teach online PI courses geared to writers (http://www.writingprivateinvestigators.com). We started these classes after fielding questions from writers writing sleuths, and we slant the class toward what's helpful for writers.

    As to the class you mentioned, Colleen took a specialized course for investigators when we started our business and she spent a lot of money, and committed three-four months of her time, taking it. From her perspective, that particular course was most beneficial for her as an investigator. Would she take it as a writer only? No. Why? Here's her two cents:

    Colleen: I learned a lot about the nuts and bolts of the business, made good networking contacts, but if I'd only been interested in learning about investigations as a writer, I'd probably have called a PI or three and asked if I could pick their brain, maybe visit their office, even ask if they'd let me accompany them at some task where a civilian wouldn't get in the way (maybe a court records check/DMV visit, etc.) to get a pulse on the business. There are some great books out there that cost a lot less than a college course, too (one of our favorites is Steve Brown's Investigations for Idiots...actually I just butchered the title, but that's close enough). He's a professional PI who really knows his stuff (and, in fact, is polishing his first PI novel). His non-fiction book is dated 2002, so many technological advances (and numerous legal changes) have taken place since then, but it's a good, basic "take" on the private investigations business from a pro.

    Shaun and I are gradually working toward finishing our own non-fiction book on writing sleuths...we've decided to self-publish it and hope for it to be ready sometime mid-2010.

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  28. Colleen and Shaun, thank you so much for being with us today.

    Hey Seekerville, you can comment through Friday for a chance at some great Sleuthing prizes courtesy of our generous PI pals.

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  29. Thank you!!! Thank you!!! Thank you!!! Now I know I don't need to take the PI college class!!! And, I have Stever Kerry Brown's book: The Complete Idiot's Guide to Private Investigating. Glad to know you approve of his work.

    Hope to take your classes in the not-too-distant future, and I'll be watching for your how-to book out in 2010!!!

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  30. Hi Colleen and Shaun! Sorry I missed the fun today. Your post is very intriguing.

    Colleen, you're a Jackilyn of many trades -- PI and novelist. I've read your books. You're good : )

    Thanks for joining us in Seekerville!

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  31. Audra, long time (as in years) no see! Nice to cross paths again.

    Tina, thank you for being such a gracious hostess.

    And everyone else, we enjoyed your questions and warm welcomes. Drop by our blog Guns, Gams, and Gumshoes & stay in touch http://writingpis.wordpress.com/

    Best wishes, Shaun and Colleen

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  32. Great to get some insight into the real PI world.

    I, too, love Rockford. Of course I've had a crush on James Garner since the old Maverick shows. (Boy, does that make me OLD, or what.)

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  33. I love Rockford Files too. I just love the beginning theme song.

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