Thursday, December 22, 2016

Your Life is a Cast of Characters

Hola, I’m Jolene Navarro.  Thank you for joining me on a discussion of craft. I love talking story and how our brain connects the dots to create something that no one else can write. Part of being a writer is being an observer of human nature. 

Just look around you. Your life is a cast of characters! 

Today we’re exploring archetypes and real life observations and how they can be twisted so your characters become real. 



How can we make our characters grow in believable and interesting ways? We want them to live on in the reader’s mind after the book is closed. 

It’s the characters we fall in love with and they are the ones that move our plot. 

The key is to make sure your characters are deep enough to have solid internal and external conflict that will take them through the whole story without becoming episodic. Easy right? LOL Ready to break it down?

To create people that will make your story zing, you need conflict that flows naturally from your characters. (Not a lost job, snow storm or foreclosed house) 

Let’s start with archetypes.




I use “The Complete Writer’s Guide to Heroes & Heroines” by Cowden, LaFever and Viders and “Archetype Cards” by Caroline Myss.



Here are the archetypes outlined in The Complete Writer's Guide to Heroes & Heroines.

Male Archetypes:

The CHIEF— a dynamic leader, he has time for nothing but work. 
The BAD BOY— dangerous to know, he walks on the wild side.
The BEST FRIEND— sweet and safe, he never lets anyone down.
The LOST SOUL— a tormented being, he lives in solitude.
The CHARMER— a smooth talker, he creates fantasies. 
The PROFESSOR— coolly analytical, he knows every answer. 
The SWASHBUCKLER— Mr. Excitement, he’s an adventurer.
The WARRIOR— a noble champion, he acts with honor.

Female Archetypes:

The BOSS— a real go-getter, she climbs the ladder of success. 
The SEDUCTRESS— an enchantress, she charms to get her way. 
The SPUNKY KID— gutsy and true, she is loyal to the end.
The FREE SPIRIT— an eternal optimist, she dances to unheard tunes.
The WAIF— a distressed damsel, she bends, but does not break. 
The LIBRARIAN— controlled and clever, she holds back.
The CRUSADER— a dedicated fighter, she meets commitments. 
The NURTURER— serene and capable, she nourishes the spirit.



And a little about the Archetype Cards: Here is the breakdown of the  Myss archetypes.

Light Attributes would be positive attributes.
Shadow Attributes would be more negative attributes. 
 

Starting with archetypes can work well because these characters are embedded in our DNA.  We know them. We live with them. We read them. From Beowulf to Pride and Prejudice all the way to Avengers, writers use archetypes to help us connect to the characters they created.  

Mr. Darcy, a romantic favorite, is clearly a CHIEF, a born leader and decisive.

 Going to the archetype cards he is the JUDGE. On the shadow side, he starts off overbearing, inflexible and judging without compassion. 

Through his character arc in the story he remains true to his character trait but he learns to use his judgment to seek balance between justice and compassion.  He steps into the light of the JUDGE. It is wisdom. He understands there needs to be a fair distribution of power. 

Yay, Mr. Darcy. 

Another example is from my latest story, Forever Christmas Kiss


Xaviar, the hero, is the LOST SOUL:

Tortured, secretive, wanderer.  He's creative. To twist it, he hides behind an easy smile and a careless attitude. He needs and wants roots but has a deep fear of connections because of his experiences since childhood. 

Using the cards, I give him the trait of a Seeker.

Shadow: Inability to commit, always moving on to another path. Lost. 
Light: Thirst for wisdom and truth. Finding peace.

His heroine is the LIBRARIAN: 

Controlled and clever, prim and proper. Hiding her true self out of fear of making a mistake.  

Using the cards: Servant.
Shadow: Being responsible is used as an excuse to not life her own life. Resentment.
Light: Delights in serving others with free, loving and open heart.

He will teach her the joy of taking risks, of flying. She will give him the roots and family he longs for. Together they find the full purpose God has for them.




Now we are going to brainstorm from the beginning, using what we observe and the archetypes. I’m going to throw my friend, Teri Wilson, under the bus as an example…I mean I’m using her for inspiration. She is a girly girl. She loves glitter, ballet, and anything royal.  Not necessarily in that order. She’ll also meet me before the sun clears the horizon with her hair in a messy bun to walk on the beach. Without a second thought, she’ll pick up a tiny turquoise fish stuck in the sand with her bare hands and return him to the ocean. 

So I have these two pictures. 



  
Yes, I take pictures of people all the time for my personal files. People that surprise me, inspire me, and intrigue me are all in an idea folder I have on my computer. 

Using the pictures and archetypes, let’s go through a brainstorming exercise to develop an interesting, breathing character. 

Remember this is not Teri, but a fictional character that will have all the flaws we need to create tension and conflict that will take our heroine from living in the shadows to her light and happy ending. No static characters! 

For archetypes, we’ll make her a FREE SPIRIT.

Eternal optimist, dances to music no one else hears, she follows her heart. 
Archetype twist: Protective of her heart because she has been hurt too many times by family, church & past boyfriends.

What can we do to make her more interesting?

Archetype cards: WOUNDED CHILD: 

Shadow: resist forgiveness. Hangs on to old wounds. 
Light: Opens to the path of forgiveness. Compassion and desire to help others.
2ND Archetype: MAGICAL CHILD: 
Shadow: Lost faith. Cynical, Pessimism 
Light: Finding the sacred beauty in life. Restored faith.

Now we are starting to know her. It’s time to develop a hero just for her, one that will push her, challenge her and bring out the best in her. Help move her from living in her shadow to living in the light. She will do the same for him. We will sigh at their happy ending.

One last note - to make them real you have to find out why. Always find out why. Also known as motivation. Why? Why? Why? 

In the Christmas Carol we don’t see just one hard hit, but a series of scaring emotional events that shape Scrooge into a bitter old man. 

It’s fun to dig deep and get to know your characters. It’s so much more than their favorite color or ice cream. Unless it has to do with a dead sister!

Back to our brainstorming!

I already see scenes even without having our hero fleshed out yet. Are you seeing them? In the intro, he sees her all put together, her public image of the beautiful graceful dancer. He’s the youth minister at a mega church. She has some experience that makes her cynical of big powerful churches. They are on opposing side of something. 

Now their second meeting: His mother has asked him to pick up his niece from dance class.

Opening the door, he bumps into the heroine in baggy oversized workout clothes. Her hair is in a sloppy bun and she has no make-up on…in her hand she is calmly holding a praying mantis. 

His niece is close behind, tears in her eyes. 

The heroine will become awkward and uneasy because she doesn’t have her public armor on…he sees the real her.  

His niece hasn’t spoken since the car accident that killed her parents. Standing next to the heroine, she speaks. “Mr. Bob was going to kill it.”

Right there, I think the hero will start to fall in love with her. 

Can you see how we used their traits to set the scene and we are showing instead of telling the reader who they are. We can see so much character in this small action that all comes from our inspiration and playing with the archetypes. We flipped our princess and we gave our smart and serious hero a vulnerability.

Of course, it still needs lots of layers, but we have the bones of real characters that we can cheer for and watch fall in love. To ensure you have a power packed story you need threads and conflicts that stay connected and build on each other.

Character traits that are aligned and oppose to the internal and external goals will have your story popping and sizzling throughout the journey. All neatly intertwined, as you build to the climax. The characters will move from their shadow to their true essences, into the light, fulfilling the purpose God had for them since the very beginning. 

Let’s apply what we talked about. It’s your turn. 

What archetypes would you use for our hero in order to create the best possible tension for our Free Spirit, wounded heroine and help her find her light? 

There are no wrong answers. 




Jolene Navarro's life, much like her stories, is filled with faith, family, football, art, laughter, dirty dishes and all of life's wonderful messiness. She knows that, as much as the world changes, people stay the same. Good and evil. Vow-keepers and heart breakers. Jolene married a vow-keeper who showed her that holding hands and dancing in the rain never gets old. When she's not teaching art to energetic middle-schoolers or hanging out with her four kids, she loves creating stories of love and faith in her much loved Texas.

And if you want to chat more about story, you can find her at her favorite place – Facebook at Jolene Navarro, Author.  


Leave a comment today for a chance to win an ecopy of Forever Christmas Kiss or a print copy of The Soldier's Surprise Family. Two winners.

And a bonus giveaway! Jolene will send Caroline Myss Archetype Cards to one person who mentions they'd like to win them in the comments!

 Winners announced in the Weekend Edition.


 Unexpected Daddy 


Texas state trooper Garrett Kincaid is a lone wolf—until he becomes an instant father of two young children. The former soldier never knew he had a son…or that his little boy has a baby sister with nowhere to go. His landlady, lovely widow Anjelica Ortega-Garza, offers to help, and suddenly Garrett's life is all about nap schedules and baby bottles and trying to make his traumatized son smile. Falling for Anjelica isn't part of the plan. Yet even Garrett can't deny that love has begun building a family of four right around him.

117 comments :

  1. Welcome to Seekerville! Awesome post, Jolene. I'm not getting into the archetypes as I'm a reader. I'm not sure why I've never read one of your novels, but I sure would love to!

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    1. Thank you for being here Marianne. I was a reader long before I was a writer. I love story telling on all levels.

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  2. Welcome Jolene to Seekerville! Oh I love it when authors make characters just as complex & layered as us "real" humans :-) I would have no idea what type of hero to pair with our heroine to create conflict, I'd probably go with the opposite type of personality. I've read enough books to know that this can create much conflict between the two! Of course by the end, they find ways to understand & help each other. So, I'll leave the answer up to our talented writers here :-)

    I'd love to be in the draw for a print copy of "The Soldier's Surprise Family". I'm with Marianne, I don't believe I've had the pleasure of reading one of your books yet. Thanks for the post, I'm learning just how complex writing can be! But it's fascinating to learn a writer's craft and what method each author uses to create magnificent stories. Merry Christmas to you and yours! I've been enjoying the pictures you've posted on Facebook with time spent with your family for the holidays. You are a very blessed woman indeed :-)

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    1. Trixi, I think you'd love Jolene's work.... She is delightful!

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    2. Yes, Iv'e seen you on Facebook. I love that a whole world is open to us in ways we never had before. And yes, opposite character traits is always interesting. Thank you for stopping by.

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  3. Good morning, Jolene!

    I absolutely love using archetypes to create my characters. In addition to the Heroes and Heroine's book, I also use 45 Master Characters by Schmidt. Most of the archetypes cross over, but 45 Master Characters has an additional archetype called the Messiah.

    To answer your question about which archetype I might pair with a Free Spirit, I've always thought that a Warrior would create conflict in that he would be dedicated to a cause and want to conform to rules. But they both are passionate in their beliefs, so that might be common ground.

    Thanks for sharing this fun information with us. Have a Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year.

    ~ Renee

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    1. Renee, another archetypes book for me to check out! Thank you!! Why have I not heard of this one???

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    2. Renee, thanks for stopping by. Yes, that a god book also. I love craft books. The Warrior is one of my favorites in a hero. And pair that with a wounded or abandon child! You've got a man that needs some loving and can love deeply in return. :)

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    3. Tina, it's a Writer's Digest book. Heroes and Heroines and 45 Master Characters are the only books worthy of a permanent spot on my desk. ;-)

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    4. Me too Renee, and the Emotional Thesaurus.

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  4. I couldn't begin to develop a hero. This why I leave the writing to others. I loved this post thank you.

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    1. Thank you for stopping by and reading. With out others to share our stories our characters would never come alive. For a tie we get to share a vision. I love that the human brain can create and share.

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  5. I know folks buy "Bed in a Bag" linens all the time, and that's what I thought of while reading this excellent post, Jolene.... A "Course in a Bag".

    This could easily be a conference class or an online writing course. What a wonderful layout of how to build unforgettable characters!

    I'm so glad you're with us today! Being Christmas week and all, I wanted to put out a couple of cookie trays (Fresh thumbprints with homemade jam!) and fudge and all kinds of good things.

    And youse all know we love cookies anytime here in Seekerville!

    Jolene, I'm loving the set up of the book.... a secret baby, bonus baby sister and a great nanny!

    I'm in love with the whole premise!!!!!! Go you!

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    1. Teri and I came up with this topic to submit to Nationals (RWA) Even if they don't pick it up we plan on taking it to the road. Thank you for the cookies I haven't had homemade fudge forever.

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  6. Hi Jolene! What a great fun post!

    I think I would pair the FREE SPIRIT up with the BEST FRIEND. I think he could help keep her grounded but still be free.

    The books and cards sound great! Please include me for any of them. Especially the Caroline Myss Archetype Cards

    May everyone have a blessed day and Merry Christmas!

    Blessings,
    Cindy W.

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    1. OH Cindy, Best Friend would be nice. She needs someone steady and solid. We could look into his past and see what would make him afraid of loving her. Or what he thinks she is anyway. Love it.

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  7. Welcome, Jolene! Fantastic post!
    The warrior and the best friend are always my favorite male archetypes, so pair them with any female and I'm a happy reader.
    I'd love to be entered into the drawing for the cards...they look awesome, as does your latest release.

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    1. Yes, the warrior is a weakness of mine. Love finding ways to torture him. Sometimes I have to force myself to play with the other types, but I always go back to the warrior. Throw in an abandoned child and you have a hero I can't resist. Thank you for stopping by.

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  8. Welcome to Seekerville, Jolene. I was shocked to discover you hadn't been a guest before. WHAT??

    I am loving the covers of both of your books!!

    What are you working on now??

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    1. Right now I'm working a story that combines LOST SOUL hero with a heroine that is a CRUSADER. They eloped in college but he disappears soon afterwards. Six years later he is back. For him I also used The PROSTITUTE - let me explain. This character traits does not see thier own value, they sell their integrity out of fear of physical survival or financial gain. In order to get quick money he made a bad choice and ended up in prison. Through a prison ministry he learns his self-worth and to trust God. With those lesson he becomes impervious to selling out. I love the Archetype Cards. :) Of course while he was away learning life lessons she returned home to raise her twins he didn't know about. It's called The Texan's Twins. It is the second book in my new Lone Star Legacy Series - Four sisters raised in their father's lumberyard. The first one, Texas Daddy will be out Aug 2017. I also have my first historical out in July 2017 - Lone Star Bride. I get to play with cowboys and pirates in this one. It has been a busy year. I love it.

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    2. WOW!!! You do have a lot going on!!! And I love your archetype pairing for that book!

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  9. The professor is my favorite hero archetype and he's who I'd pair with the free spirit. The professor and Maryanne on Gilligan. I love, love that archetype potential.

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    1. LOL, reading up from the bottom, see that great minds think alike! :)

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    2. Jolene, I was thinking along Tina's lines when I decided to read the comments first. (My husband often works with twenty-somethings who have never heard of Gilligan's Island, but I find it helps when brainstorming about archetypes). I was thinking of Ginger and the Professor myself. Sigh. :) I'll think of another example for later now.

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    3. Love the Professor type - I think of the Beast in X-Men - there there is a twist to the Professor.

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  10. The thing for our newer writers to remember is this is yet another tool to add to your arsenal. Having issues with internal conflict? Pull out your archetypes. They do the work for you!

    What an excellent reminder, Jolene!

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    1. I love looking for new ways to keep my characters and stories fresh. Sometimes we get stuck in a rut so finding a new resource can help spark new idea connections in our brain.

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  11. HI Jolene,
    Your books looked so interesting I scooted over to amazon and bought both. After reading the preview pages, I just couldn't stop there. Merry Christmas to me :)

    Thanks for sharing today!

    Merry Christmas Seekerville friends!

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    1. Oh, that Tracey! Never misses a good thing!!! Wise woman!

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    2. Thank you Tracey. Hope you enjoy. Merry Christmas.

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  12. Hmm. I think I would pair the FREE SPIRIT with the PROFESSOR, reminiscent of Pygmalion / My Fair Lady. I've heard a little about archetypes, and this has made me interested in digging in a little deeper. Please enter me in the running for the cards. Thanks for the explanations!

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    1. One of my favorite stories of all time! Teri Wilson did a retelling but flipped it. She is the PROFESSOR and the hero is the FREE SPIRIT (and artist) It's call The Art of US. The cards help me go deeper and see the character arch. Thank you for stopping by.

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  13. AHA!!! Dana and I concur. Free Spirit and Professor. I keep thinking Marilyn Monroe.

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    1. Oh I love the image and complexity of Marilyn Monroe

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  14. To answer your question as to how I would pair the Free Spirit, I would pair her with a Childhood Friend, because those are the archetypes for my characters in the book I am working on. Thanks for this interesting post, I love classifying things into little categories so I had a hoot with this whole archetype business trying to figure out which of my characters would go into each category.

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  15. It's my friend Jolene! Loved this post. I seriously want those cards. What a great resource! And I love your idea of using pictures for your personal files.

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    1. HI Dana!!! I love taking pictures of people and settings. I don't know if I could have been a writer before smart phones! LOL

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  16. P.S. I am still thinking about your pairing question.

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    1. I tend to ponder possibilities too. In art I tell my students that your first idea is the one 50% of other people with have also - so take the time make a list, connect unusual ideas, brainstorm then you will get your original idea.

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    2. You teach art! I forgot that! So are you a Free Spirit too, Jolene?

      I will remember that...to push past the 50% point. Excellent.

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    3. I'm a good example of Free Spirit mashed-up with a Professor type. One of the things I like about the cards are they are gender neutral. LOl

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  17. **Off Topic Alert**
    I need recommendations for some Happy, Lighthearted, Low Stress books. Easy to read, Chick Flic kind of books- Historical, Contemporary, Suspense, whatever!
    Just NOT big stress/trauma/etc.

    Usually I go to Mary Connealy &/or Melanie Dickerson books for this but need some new ideas!

    THANK YOU & Merry Christmas!!

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    1. Oh you need to look into Teri Wilson's books if you have not read her yet. Unleashing Mr. Darcy was made into a Hallmark movie and broke recorders. My favorite is Unmasking Juliet (warring chocolates families) and there is The Art of Us. All good reads that I think you would enjoy.

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    2. Have you ever read the Percy Jackson books? Those are really lighthearted and I absolutely love the writing style Mr. Riordan uses. Or perhaps Ella Enchanted which I consider to be my number one comfort read. That is of course if you don't want to read that is strictly on the Christian market.

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    3. OOOH, I had no idea the Juliet book was about that. If you are not subscribed to Teri Wilson's newsletter you should be. It is a work of art!

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    4. And another random comment alert...Cindy Busby who starred in Teri's Darcy Hallmark film was the villainous Ashley in Heartland!

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    5. Jana have you tried Karen Witemeyer? Or Jenn Turano? Regina Jennings? Margaret Brownly is great. Ruthy Logan Herne even makes you laugh (when she's not KILLING PEOPLE)
      Have you read Francine Rivers Mark of the Lion Trilogy? Not lighthearted but man oh man does that book take you away
      How about The Rosetti Curse. That's just so funny it's ridiculous.

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    6. Ahem, EXCUSE ME.... I mean 'The Rosetti Curse' by Tina Radliffe!

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    7. Thanks so much for the shoutout, ya'll!! Especially for my newsletter...it's relatively new, so the more subscribers the better.

      Back to tending to the praying mantis in my hands...(but that story is so not about me)....

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    8. As far as inspirational lighthearted contemporaries, have you heard of Melissa Tagg? I enjoyed the book of hers that I have read and thought it was more on the lighthearted side.

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  18. Jolene, I love that excerpt from The Velveteen Rabbit.

    I'm sniffling as I type

    I bought the Velveteen Rabbit for one of my grandchildren for Christmas when I realized they did NOT HAVE IT IN THEIR HOUSE!
    Grandma to the rescue.
    Great post today!

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  19. I own that book Heroes/Heroines. I swear I'm going to read it someday.
    My copy has a guy's head that looks like a silhouette of Van Morrison in his 'The Doors' era.
    I never could figure out what Van Morrison had to do with writing. (for made a rock group think 'The Doors' was a good name!??)

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  20. Yes, there are two covers out there of the same book. I don't think I've ever just read it. That is what makes it a great craft book - I look at the list then I go read those parts. Some of my writing friends have also had fun applying it to other friends and our husbands. lol

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  21. May I be greedy and say I want them all. All the wonderful gifts you're offering today for commenting because I can't choose amongst them. They all sound FANTABULOUS!!!

    Okay, now that my little miss greedy guts is satisfied, I'd like to say that this is an awesome post. Drew me in and got my muse to wake up and go "oooooo, toys to play with..."

    Let's see, I haven't looked at comments yet, so my suggestion for a hero for the heroine you've begun to flesh out would be the PROFESSOR or WARRIOR archetypes. After that, um... not sure about the card stage.

    Okay, off to go read the comments. This is a cool post. Thanks for your visit. I do so love your books!

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    1. Those would both be great set ups for our heroine - maybe he's a mix of both - an analytical warrior. That would sure make him a problem solver. Love where that would take them with her free spirit.

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  22. Wonderful having you as our guest today, Jolene! My primary exposure to archetypes has been from Chris Vogler's book The Writer's Journey and also Michael Hauge's videos, but it's been awhile. These resources you recommended look interesting and make me want to dig deeper!

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    1. Love both of them. Have you listen to this CD? https://www.amazon.com/Heros-2-Journeys-Michael-Hauge/dp/1880717476 I've listened several times. It's both of them talking about how their journeys actually work together. From Identity to Essence is one of the first things I work out when I start building my characters. I have not seen the videos - I will have to check that out.

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    2. I think the CD you're talking about is the audio version of the DVD set I have--The Hero's 2 Journey's. Excellent!

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    3. Have the CD, the DVD and Udemy now has a Hauge/Vogler course which is the DVD basically... for $15 dollars on sale. Go to Udemy.com and put in Hauge. Identity to Essence is only available from RWA and his new one from last year. I listen to Identity to Essence (two part) constantly. In fact have it plugged in and ready to listen to today.

      Hauge is my personal writing hero.

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    4. I got to attend a two day work shop with him in Austin - I love Identity to Essence.

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  23. This is a very interesting post. I printed it off so I can further look at it when the Christmas craziness has passed.

    Please enter me for a set of the Archetype cards as well as for one of your books.

    Merry Christmas everyone. Must get back to my final decorating and cooking mode.

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    1. Merry Christmas! Thanks for stopping by - I know how busy everyone is this time of year. If you have any questions or ideas you want to share later you can find me on facebook! :) Enjoy your decorating and cooking!

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  24. Hi Jolene, Thank you for joining us here in Seekerville today with such an interesting post. What fun to decide on what archtype your hero is. I love doing that and listing their strengths and weaknesses, etc. so fun to daydream.

    Great points and thanks for the gifts you're offering. Those cards sound interesting and I'm sure a reader will love winning those. You are so generous.

    Thanks again and have a wonderful Christmas.

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  25. Thank you, Sandra. Yes I think brainstorming characters and why they are the way they are is one of my favorite parts of writing.

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  26. JOLENE, oh my gosh I love this so much. Feel free to throw me under the bus any time you like!!!! xoxox

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  27. LOLOL! That's what friends are for, right Teri. Delighted to have the author who inspired TWO Hallmark movies stop by!!

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  28. Jolene, welcome to Seekerville! Great post! I know what Santa can get me for Christmas. Those wonderful Archetype Cards! Did you get the book by the same title as well? Heroes and Heroines sounds like it also needs to be in my Christmas stocking.

    I'm a huge Hauge fan!!! His identify to essence makes sense to me. Actually, I think all of us can probably relate on some level to the concept.

    Terri's Hallmark movie was delightful! I remember meeting her at her first HQ RWA party. She looked gorgeous and was wearing a fluffy pink dress that was to die for! So thrilled about her success!

    Have a Merry Christmas, Jolene. We'll hit 70 degrees in GA today. I'm sure you're enjoying sunshine in your part of the Southwest!

    Hugs!

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    1. Thank you Debby. Teri does know how to dress or an occasion! Love her style. The car The cards come with a little book. That's what I use. The Heroes and Heroines book has movies examples - that's fun. We are in the 50s and 60 here in the Texas Hill Country nice winter weather for us.

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  29. JOLENE, an amazing post, and it's really given me something to think about. Thank you. I would love to be entered into the drawing for the cards.
    Kathy Bailey

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    1. Hi Kaybee. Thank you. There is so much that goes into creating stories. The easier the story is to read the harder the author had to work. LOL

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  30. "You can observe a lot by just watching." Yogi Berra

    Hi Jolene:

    Thanks so much for your quote from "The Velveteen Rabbit". I immediately bought the book on Amazon. I never had a reading children's books phase as a child. I've read all my children's books as an adult.

    You have to wonder why so many classic children's books are so fascinating to adults. C.S. Lewis, Mark Twain, Beatrice Potter, "The Velveteen Rabbit", "The Wizard of Oz", and so many others. Could it be that what makes a best selling children's book is that adults love to read those books to children and when the child sees how much the adults is enjoying the story, they naturally love it too! (Kids are the greatest mimics.)

    I think kids and animals fit many of the archetypes even better than adults!

    Are you a plotter? Your views are very much like my own in that I believe one should create a great story first. I don't believe a character can be great outside the context of the story. Once you have a great story, go to 'central casting' and select the perfect 'actor' for that part. (Perhaps you don't believe this!)

    Which gets us to the subject of archetypes.

    "Breakthroughs are made by people who break rules."

    True, some who did not know the rules can get lucky when breaking those rules and create an original gem; however, many more, who know the rules, also know the best ways in which rules can be broken successfully.

    Is 'archetype' really a euphemism for cliché? Is depending on archetypes a refuse for the non-original, non-creative, mind to find shelter? I feel it is best to use the classification of archetypes to create interesting non-archetypical characters. To me, at least, a predictably archetypical character is boring. Superman is boring. It's always the villains that make the story. (Until they become clichés themselves -- which is why there is such an endless variety of interesting villains.)

    Now consider the writers who create the characters first and then want those characters to act on their own to 'write' the story. Pantsers! Sometimes this works but often it does not. Do you think Hollywood says, "Hire some actors and then let them write the story. Here's 125 million dollars to work with."

    No way! You have to have a 'high concept' blockbuster story for your agent to shop around!

    There are no sagging middles in great stories! But you get them all the time when you expect characters to create stories by the sheer power of their personalities. (One author told me the reason she had three main female characters with first names that all began with "C" was because they would not let her change their names! She bragged that she was able to slip this by her editor! BTW: the two males leads were "Robert" and "Richard".)

    Not that I'm opinionated or anything. : )

    Please place me in the drawing for a Kindle version of your book. I really like 'lawman' books. They make great heroes of which I vicariously become for an all too short a time. (Hint to Ruth -- more lawman books like "The Lawman's Second Chance". Pretty Please.)

    Vince

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    1. You and I could have a great discussion on creative thinking. Many classic children's are written with a very adult themes. Themes that resonate in our collective DNA. Story structure and archetypes have been used since the Greeks - it's hard to rewire what is embedded in our very fiber of humanity. Cliches happen when you stay on the top and never dig down. We wrap ourselves in the familiar but LOVE to be surprised within that structure. That's why we have to twist the familiar.

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    2. I use to think writer just sat down and wrote. It took me two years to write my first story and then I had to take it apart and rewrite it before I sent it in. I agree with you. Story and plot has to come from the character for it to be real. Setting is in there too. Where we are from and our experiences shapes us as people. I have enough experince with creative people (best-selling authors, awarding winning and artist) to know one thing - the creative process is different for everyone. The way our brain works is as different as our fingerprints. I know pantsers that are very successful and I know hard core plotters that are very successful. Either way - the more knowledge you have the more tools you have to create a story that others can see when they are reading.
      In one workshop I do about craft and creative thinking I start with an early picture painted by the young Picasso - it is Masterful. He mastered the craft of painting - then he explored and experimented through different phases - what he is most known for are the out of wack faces - that is actually based on points of view on a 2D surface and African mask. LOL Yes you and I need to have lunch.

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    3. On one last note from your post. One of my pet peeves is when someone does not want to make any changes to their ms because the characters are in control. No, you're the creator, you are in absolute control. lol Don't get me wrong. I do discover wonderful things about my characters while I'm writing and it is so fun, but I know in the end I decide what stays and what goes. :) Thanks so much for stopping by and chatting

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  31. JOLENE, welcome to Seekerville and thanks for this interesting, informative post! I haven't played much with character archetypes. Shame on me as this sounds like a very helpful way to create characters. I love creating internal conflict that stirs up trouble. :-) Will check out the Writer's Digest book Heroes and Heroines.

    I love your covers. The Forever Christmas Kiss cover just beams with romance! From your response to Tina, I can see you've got a lot in the works. How do you manage it all? Any tips?

    Janet

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    1. Thank you so much. Forever Christmas Kiss is my first indie project. It was hard finding the right cover, but when I found this one I fell in love. As for time - really I don't watch TV. You can get a great deal done with just two hours a day. Then there are the days that I spend all day writing - that happens when deadlines are approaching at a neck-braking speed. LOL

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  32. RUTHY is right, this is as good as a course. I ran the H & H from the book I'm shopping around now through the archetypes. He is a Charmer and a Swashbuckler, and she is a Nurturer and a Waif, but she's a Waif because of what he did to her. She needs to learn to trust him again and to be able to nurture again and risk getting hurt, and he needs to recognize out who he is under all the charm, and to stop swashbuckling, for Pete's sake. That's as deep as I've gone, but this post gives me tools to go deeper. Oh, this is going to be fun.
    KB

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    1. Good luck on the shopping. Hope it finds a home you love. A little swashbuckling is fun within limits. :)

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  33. I'm officially on vacation AND it's a snow day, so I have been able to catch up on some things here while watching the snow fall, keeping the Christmas village lit, and listening to Christmas instrumental music. This has been A Great Day. I submitted queries to two small boutique publishers, posted a Christmas story on Facebook, posted a different one on LinkedIn, and e-mailed an entry to Chicken Soup for the Soul. Don't love snow, but love the Snow Days. Am on vac. next week, so hope to get some of my "real" writing done.
    Kathy B.

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    1. That sounds so nice. We don't get much snow down here in the Texas Hill Country. God luck with the writing. Thanks for stopping by and visiting.

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  34. Hello Jolene! Great post! I'm reading your "Forever Christmas Kiss" right now that I won from you recently on Goodreads! It's great! I love Xavier and Isabella's story so far! I can't wait to read "The Soldier's Surprise Family". I love your writing! Ad me to the drawing please! :) Merry Christmas

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    1. Thank you, Valri. I'm always a little startled when people know the people that lived in my head for so long. lol. I loved those two. Have a Merry Christmas. Thank you for joining us today.

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  35. Coming back today to read what others have to say and comment some more.

    I was going to suggest Best Friend myself the more I was thinking about it. Just seems like he could be a grounding force for her free spirit without smothering her independence. Funny, it sounds like my husband and I...he's the steady, staid, stick-by-your-side friend while I am much more independent and adventurous (to a point). Our relationship works :-) We've adapted a little of each other's personalities over the almost 20yrs and learned to appreciate the opposite traits. Not to say there has never been conflict, but we've learned to overcome and realize each of us brings our own uniqueness to the marraige. I think it would be boring to be the same...lol!

    Glad to see some of our writers agree with this Archetype :-) Not bad for a non-writer 'eh?

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    1. Really good, Trixi. Love the comparison to you and your husband!

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    2. Your instincts are right on! ANd what makes this work is that it is based on real people. I'm married to a best friend type too. It is a great balance to my free spirit. So it has worked and we are going on 30 years.

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  36. Great post!! I'm learning a ton. I love any exam that starts with "There are no wrong answers".

    I'd love to be tossed in the drawing for the Caroline Myss Archtype Cards.

    The Soldier's Surprise Family looks great! As the wife of a State Trooper, you had me from State Trooper.

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    1. The hardest thing for us to do sometime is not fear being wrong or looking stupid. I have art students that will stare at a blank canvas afraid of messing it up. Our writing is the same - we have to start somewhere or we will get nowhere. Thank for stopping by. You made my teacher heart very happy.

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  37. I'm a sucker for an honorable Warrior. Maybe our wounded Free Spirit needs a champion to help her battle her old demons.

    Have a great Christmas!

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  38. Oh, and thanks for the book recommendations! My little Amazon fingers are itching to buy them. ;-)

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  39. JOELNE, thank you for the great post! Strong characters make for a memorable story.

    Please enter me in the drawing for an ecopy of Forever Christmas Kiss.

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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    1. Yes, I think it is the characters that hook us. People we want to cheer for, cry with watch get a happy ending. Thank you for visiting today.

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  40. This post was absolutely fascinating - thank you, Jolene! I'm bookmarking it to read again. I've never thought of creating characters this way. The only ones I've written about so far have been with me for so long that I can't remember not knowing them. Can't wait to try this for the new WIPs. Merry Christmas from a fellow Texan, and thanks again!

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  41. I was like that. My first characters were just with me. Then you have to turn in proposal with new characters. LOL It's a good problem to have. Thank you Laura for stopping by to visit.

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  42. Praying your workshop is selected for Nationals, Jolene and Teri!

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  43. This was great, Jolene. I'm pretty sure I have the book somewhere in my house, but I've never used the cards. They look very cool. Thanks for sharing all of this.

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    1. I like the card because they are gender free and look at the neg and positive side of the trait. ANd we are never just one trait - that's what makes it interesting.

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  44. WOW, Jolene -- I want your brain, girlfriend! But since I can't have that, it looks like I need to check out the books you mentioned AND your books!! And Forever Christmas Kiss looks WONDERFUL, so I'm definitely going to check that out. You had me at "Kiss" ... ;)

    Hugs,
    Julie

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    1. Aww - thank you, but I have to warn it it gets a little crazy in here. The books are fun and much more organized than my brain. lol

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  45. Jolene, I was fortunate in that I went to a Tami Cowden workshop where she talked about archetypes and went over the different pairings in detail. I bought her book at that time, and I look forward to reading it in 2017. I left one comment as a reply to Tina because I, too, also thought of the free spirit teamed with a professor a la Gilligan's Island. I always love more ideas about brainstorming. So much fun. (Yes, I love brainstorming).

    Please enter me in the drawing.

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    1. Yes, the book get more into how the different types oppose and compliment each other. Brainstorming is my favorite part.

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  46. Please enter me in the drawing if I am not too late!
    Merry Christmas!
    Connie
    cps1950(AT)gmail(DOT)com

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    1. Thank you for stopping by - I'm not sure when the deadline is to enter - Good luck!

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  47. What a great article! As a reader I am impressed with your thoughtfulness in the process. Please enter me in the drawing.
    Becky B.

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    1. Thank you. Glad you stopped by. I find the thought I put into the brainstorming stage the easier it is to wrote the book.

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  48. Jolene, I'm a day late in welcoming you! I hope you see my comment on your FANTASTIC post! Thank you so much for sharing this brainstorming session. I was so inspired I ordered the cards to use as I'm dreaming up new characters for a story!!

    I also have to say how jealous I am that you live near the beach. I wish I could hang out there with you and Terri! :)

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    1. We live about 3 hours from the beach - but for the retreat we went all the way down to the bottom of the Texas coast line. The best beaches in Texas. It was worth the 5 hour trip - of course we made the road trip part of the fun. I would love to find out how the cards work for you. I love playing with characters and what makes them the way they are. Thank you fr stopping by.

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  49. Oops! I spelled her name wrong. Teri. :)

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    1. Hi Missy!!! We actually don't live near the beach. We were at a writing retreat with our local RWA chapter and had to drive 5 and a half hours to get there. Totally worth it though!!! xoxo

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