As a literary agent in major trade book publishing at the Trident Media Group literary agency, I am approached in some weeks by hundreds of authors seeking literary representation. I often have to explain to an eager writer that they may or may not be ready for literary representation from a book publishing agent. This article will serve to help somewhat new writers and authors unsure of whether or not they have all their ducks in order, before approaching a literary agent.
1. How to know when you’re ready.
Checklist:
-Manuscript and/or Nonfiction Book Proposal with Sample Chapters:
Before querying a literary agent, the underlying material should be in as polished a state as it can be. I would not recommend finishing a manuscript and then kicking it right out the door to a literary agent, without having edited the manuscript. If the manuscript is fiction, it must be fully-written in order to be sold to book publishers, since only nonfiction can be sold on proposal-basis, accompanied by three-five sample chapters. The work of fiction must also be of normal book length/word count.
-Hook:
The “hook,” also known as an elevator pitch, is the catchy tagline of what your book is about in its essence, and must be a strong enough concept that the hook of the book catches on easily enough with potential readers such that they are enticed enough to want to read the manuscript. A good hook is usually one to three sentences and might lend an idea as to what the genre is, title, central conflict/theme(s), and perhaps even two-three comparative/competitive titles that were recent bestselling and/or award-winning novels, published within the last three to five years.
-Query Letter:
If the manuscript is your “resume” then the query letter is your “cover letter.” The query letter introduces everyone to the writer and their manuscript. A good query letter is upfront with the hook in the opening so those considering the letter get a quick sense of it, followed by a couple of body paragraphs about some the actual book description, without too many spoilers, and the last paragraph of the query letter may be reserved for the author bio.
-Relevant Writing Experience/Credentials:
This type of information may be contained within the author bio paragraph of the query letter. Any sort of background a writer has that may lend some providence to a writer’s abilities can be included, such as having attended a prestigious writing workshop, or having attained an MFA, or even a listing of shorter works published in renowned literary magazines and journals. Information filed under this category can certainly help a writer, but it is not mandatory in order to approach a literary agent.
-Platform:
More so essential to nonfiction, and though not mandatory—it can become rather helpful to fiction, platform is what a writer’s potential reach is within their own built-in audience. Platform might be as simple as an author with a million+ social media followers or a huge newsletter subscription base, maybe even a website with many visits. Publishers figure that if an author has a million social media followers, and just a fraction of those followers buy the book, then the publisher is still in good shape.
-Endorsements:
Having advance praise, or what’s also casually referred to as “blurbs,” complimenting or endorsing one’s unpublished manuscript from esteemed authors and influencers, can also help to sway a literary agent or editor at a book publishing house, in favor of a writer. Even the promise of advance praise from well-known names might help, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush when it comes to having advance praise already in the bank.
2. How to proceed.
Checklist:
-Research literary agents
Reading about literary agents and literary agencies online at credible websites, such as Publishers Marketplace, is a great way to fully-understand how a given literary agent or literary agency stacks up against the competition. On a site such as Publishers Marketplace, a writer can see how many deals a literary agent has done, as well as the type of deals, with who, and for how much money.
-Visit the websites of literary agencies
Familiarizing oneself with a literary agency’s website is also recommended in order to see how a literary agency presents itself and its clients. Read the bios of literary agents on the site and see their latest releases/clients/deals in order to see who might be a good fit.
-Know the submissions process/guidelines
Reading this article is obviously one way of knowing how to, properly and with good etiquette, go about the process of submitting query letters and manuscripts to literary agents, but also researching widely online and in books will yield good advice on how to properly and effectively go about the submissions process. Bucking the system will seldom produce good results, so read about a literary agency’s submission guidelines on their website before submitting a query letter and manuscript.
-Prepare questions/concerns
Should a literary agent offer literary representation, come prepared with questions or concerns. It is important to know the literary agency a writer might be marrying into. For instance, ask if their commission structure follows industry practices and norms, or if it is required that agent and writer sign an agency agreement to work together. Ask what their preferred method of communication is, if the manuscript needs any work, how long the submission process to publishers might be like, and how many publishers the literary agent is planning on approaching.
Beginning in book publishing means much more than just knowing that finding a literary agent is the first big step toward getting published by a major trade publishing house. This list of terms ought to have helped most any author new to book publishing navigate new and unfamiliar waters.
What about you? What part of this process do you find challenging? Feel free to share where you are in the process and please do ask questions.
GIVEAWAY: As a part of this blog posting, Mark Gottlieb will be giving away three copies of New York Times bestselling author Samantha Chase's The Baby Arrangement / Baby, I'm Yours / Baby, Be Mine (Life, Love and Babies Series) to three commenters! Note that this is not inspirational romance.
For anyone who's ever lost their heart to a man, or a baby...or both
Mark Gottlieb attended Emerson College and was President of its Publishing Club, establishing the Wilde Press. After graduating with a degree in writing, literature & publishing, he began his career with Penguin’s VP. Mark’s first position at Publishers Marketplace’s #1-ranked literary agency, Trident Media Group, was in foreign rights. Mark was EA to Trident’s Chairman and ran the Audio Department. Mark is currently working with his own client list, helping to manage and grow author careers with the unique resources available to Trident. He has ranked #1 among Literary Agents on publishersmarketplace.com in Overall Deals and other categories. http://www.tridentmediagroup.com/agents/mark-gottlieb
I am not a writer, but I really enjoyed reading today's post. I can see where an author could really get a lot out of it and the steps you can use in finding a literary agent. Lots of people are involved in the writing process!
ReplyDeleteI don't read non-inspirational books but I'd love for my name to go in the dish for the Amazon card. Thank you so much!
Hi Trixi,
DeleteThanks and I'm glad you enjoyed the article.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Hi Mark:
ReplyDeleteIs there a standard representation contract online that we could read?
Is there an exclusive right to represent contract where the agent gets a fee for any thing a writers sells even if the agent had no knowledge of the sale? (There is in real estate brokerage.)
Is there a basic fee and time span for a typical contract? If so, what is it?
Thanks, Please enter me in the drawing.
Vince
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DeleteHi Vince,
DeleteIn order to view a standard representation agreement, I'm sure Googling will yield some results and the Author's Guild will of course have some thoughts on that as well.
At Trident Media Group, we usually put together one of two types of agency agreements. The first is an all works term representation agreement, wherein the agency represents all works and deals by the author during the term of the agency agreement. I believe most of the terms on our agency agreements are a few years or so, depending on what the client and literary agent agrees to and what the literary agency approves. The other type of agency agreement is a single work term representation agreement where only one work is represented by the agency during the term of the representation. The type of books that usually fit that mold are one-off projects such as memoirs.
Our commission structure is listed on our website and follows industry practices and norms, so that will give you an idea of what the standard commission structure should look like in agency agreements:
Commission:
Our standard literary agency commission rate is 15% for sales in North America and 20% for foreign sales (in some of the small foreign markets outside North America the commission rate is 25%). The commission rate for film and TV sales is 15%.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome to Seekerville, Mark. First, it's been a pleasure working with you to get this post to our audience. Great information, that I wish I'd had at the start of my journey. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteCarrot cake muffins and pumpkin spice muffins are ready for our guests. Help yourself.
Hi Tina,
DeleteThanks again for having me on the blog and congratulations on Sekkerville's birthday!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
All very useful and interesting.
ReplyDeleteHi Mary,
DeleteThanks and I am glad to hear you enjoyed the article.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Wow, it truly makes a person realize how much of a business writing truly is. Thank you for sharing this insightful information Mark.
ReplyDeleteHappy 10th Birthday Seekerville!!!
Smiles & Blessings,
Cindy W.
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DeleteHi Cindy,
DeleteThanks and I am glad to hear there was much to learn.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Great information. A million followers! Oh well, I follow God and miracles can happen. Please, only enter my name in the drawing for the Amazon card.
ReplyDeleteHi Bettie,
DeleteI also believe in miracles, too! "If you will it, it is no dream" —Theodor Herzl
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Thank you for your post, Mark. I can often get to phase two of the agent submission process where they like the query and opening chapters enough to request the full, but then I get a rejection for representation.
ReplyDeleteSo, I've gone back and spent more time editing my manuscripts. Would you have any other suggestions on how to be more successful during this phase of submission? Or perhaps this is just where personal preference and connection to the work comes into play?
Thank you for your thoughts!
-Jeanine
Hi Jeanine,
DeleteYou might try seeing how literary agents are responding the the query letter alone, versus the sample pages. Or if the query letter is strong enough to entice literary agents to request the pages, then you know the query letter on its own is not the problem. Maybe try critiquing the sample pages in that event. The opening pages must always be the strongest whenever possible, in order to get us to want to read more. Sometimes that's simply a matter of moving stuff around such that the action/conflict is front-loaded. I always say, when in doubt, blow something up. That can either mean adding conflict or action to the page to help the story move forward. Sometimes what we think ought to be our first chapter, isn't always meant to be our first. If chapter five is more exciting, perhaps put that upfront as an opening chapter.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome, Mark. Thank you for sharing this beneficial information. What are your thoughts on a published writer not having an agent?
ReplyDeleteHi Jill,
DeleteThanks for the kind words. Of course anything I will say on the subject of a published author not having literary representation will sound biased, so I will try to set my bias aside in providing an honest answer.
A big name author, such as Stephen King has been famously unrepresented over the years. The things his lawyer asks for in his contracts Stephen can get because of who Stephen is already. The average author walking off the street and asking for a book deal from a publisher means they will merely get the standard, vanilla boilerplate agreement every author is given by the publisher. The same could even be said of authors with smaller, boutique literary agencies. With a literary agency such as Trident Media Group, we have much more clout with book publishers because our business goes to their bottom line, so our contracts and deal terms will look much more beneficial than an author trying to go it alone or with a smaller literary agency.
That's just one of the obvious ways in which an author can benefit from having a literary agent. There are many other reasons why. For instance, most book publishers do not accept unsolicited query letters from writers, unless they come by the way of a literary agent... I could go on, but I digress. This page on our website speaks to some of the benefits of having proper literary representation: http://www.tridentmediagroup.com/why-trident
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Mark, thanks for being here today... and huge congratulations on your success. How wonderful!
ReplyDeleteWe enjoy having our readers see the importance of being truly prepared (although many of us came through the school of hard knocks to learn these things... but lived!)
How has indie publishing changed the demographic need for an agent?
I've seen successful indie authors reap contracts without agency assistance, and I've seen others move away from traditional publishing and agency to running their own business fully.
I'd love to hear your take on how the shift toward independent publishing has affected agencies in the traditional marketplace?
Hi Ruth,
DeleteThanks for stopping by to read the blog post.
Sometimes the most difficult way to learn is the best way, but at the same time it pains me to see a struggling writer.
Indie publishing has afforded self-publishing authors the opportunity to get their work out there and get noticed by major trade book publishers. It's like what the farm league is to major league baseball. It remains my belief that authors entering the traditional book publishing landscape from indie success could still use the benefit of a literary agent. My reasoning is described in a reply above. It's nice to hear that some authors have taken their earnings to start small indie presses on their own, but they're just one more small fish in the ocean of fish.
The sad reality of most self-published works is that there are millions of self-published books out there so it's difficult to get noticed, let along actually sell any copies. The average self-published book sells less than a dozen copies in the lifetime of the book. I think that writers see some successes happening in the self-publishing sphere, but the likeliness of that is like winning the lottery.
With the invention of Kindle and self-publishing in the eBook space, literary agencies have begun to watch that space for up-and-coming writers to leverage them into much bigger success stories. We have also created a Digital Media & Publishing program at Trident Media Group that enables our clients to do electronic publications for unlikely works for the traditional publishing space, such as novellas, etc.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Hi Mark,
ReplyDeleteYou provided great information in your post. I think knowing and following submission guidelines whether you are sending straight to a publisher or to an agent is essential. With that said, I'd like to know your thoughts on response time if your manuscript is submitted by an agent vs. the writer.
Hi rose,
DeleteI'm glad the article is helpful.
Our website states that the literary agent will get back to the author within thirty days, though it's usually much quicker than that. For instance, if something interests me, I usually request the manuscript immediately and read over the course of the week or less. I would say that without a response by thirty days that the writer can usually expect that it's a pass from that particular literary agent. They can then feel free to try another literary agent at Trident Media Group or another literary agency.
As for submissions to book publishers via a literary agent, on behalf of a client, I usually say to give that a few months or so since publishers are inundated with submissions from literary agents. Even with that said, I've sold books in as little as a couple of days and in rarer instances, sight unseen! In even rarer instances, it has taken upwards of nine months, but again, that's in the rarest of instances.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Good morning, Mark.
ReplyDeleteA million followers??? That number surprised me, but it makes sense in terms of what percentage of those people will buy a book.
Looking forward to reading the answers others asked.
Hi Connie,
DeleteIt can be daunting building a platform for nonfiction, but there are other ways to show book publishers that a writer has a platform, other than just one million social media followers.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Mark, thank you for sharing! As a reader, I can see the importance of choosing wisely your representation.
ReplyDeletePlease enter me in the drawing for the Amazon GC.
Hi Caryl,
DeleteThanks, I am glad you got something good out of the article.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome to Seekerville, Mark! And thank you for your informative post. Finding the right fit with an agent is an important step and your post will serve as a good guideline for those seeking representation.
ReplyDeleteHi Glynna,
DeleteThanks and I'm glad the article was useful.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Great post. So informative. What are some suggestions on finding comparative titles to match what you've written?
ReplyDeleteHi Sally,
DeleteThanks very much. My advice for finding comparatives is to do a bit of searching on Amazon and Goodreads. The algorithms on those sites will aid your search. Pay careful attention to sales rankings in the overall rankings and the number of reviews/awards. You want to think of 2-3 bestsellers, of the genre, published within the last 3-5 years. Don't forget to sample the books rather than merely reading the descriptions!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome to Seekerville, Mark! Thank you for this comprehensive list. I'm in the process of querying now and actually looked up "Samantha Chase Agent" on Google just the other day and here you are!
ReplyDeleteA couple of questions for you:
Do contest wins matter? I list them in my query, but wonder if they truly hold weight.
I'm curious as to percentages...what percentage of queries get a request and what percentage of full requests get a YES for representation?
At this point, I'd say the most challenging aspect is the waiting. Nothing moves particularly fast in this business, and so it's been a good practice in patience.
Congratulations on your success!
Josee, I Hear You. I have one story currently being considered by a publisher and one being considered by an agent, and it takes like forever. If I think about it I go crazy, so I try not to.
DeleteKathy Bailey
Josee, I am anxious to hear Mark's comment on your question about contest wins. As a rather humble person (or one who has trouble believing anybody would care what my contest wins are,) I hate doing that because it sounds like bragging. However, I have been advised by people I greatly respect that this is important, that contest wins should even be a part of our email signature. Wow - that sounds so distant from what I am actually comfortable doing. Hoping Mark will give us his perspective on this.
Deletekaybee, just get back to writing and DON'T think about it. It's too hard to be patient. Write the next book, girl!
DeleteHi Josee,
DeleteThanks for thinking to look me up and I'm glad you stopped by to check the article out. Fiction is ultimately driven by the quality of the writing and the author becoming a household name by extension of that. An author's platform is more important to the nonfiction space. While awards, fellowships, grants, etc. are great, at the end of the day they're just bells and whistles. Of course include mention of contest wins and things like that in your query letter, but I think that stuff is best reserved to a short one-paragraph author bio at the end of the query letter where such things can be mentioned in brief. Of course, the more prestigious the contest win the better, but anything goes and nothing can really hurt!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Great post! Please enter me in the drawing.
ReplyDeleteBecky B.
Thanks!
DeleteAll the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Mark, thank you for this timely post. I spent several hours this morning pondering the need for a literary agent and evaluating how close I am to that need. I think there is a line we choose to step over. One side is professional and the other is amateur. Either side has to be a good place for a writer, depending on what they have as goals. Your post marks clearly points that are helpful in that decision process.
ReplyDeleteI was also considering how much inspiration should be included in an inspirational fiction. I haven't a conclusion there yet and would appreciate your viewpoint. What is just enough to not to turn away the general public, but still fall into the inspirational category? I know the answer to this might be mostly opinion but with the way the inspirational market seems to be growing it sort of returns to the professional/amateur line.
My most plaguing question- once I have bled over my edits, had critiques from other writers etc, is it important to have a paid professional edit before I approach a literary agent?
Thanks for this opportunity to ask questions. Best wishes to you.
Hi Barbara,
DeleteI am very glad to hear this was helpful to you, thanks.
Walking the tightrope of what's appropriate in inspirational fiction in order to avoid alienating audience inside and outside of inspirational fiction is not easy. I'd suggest reading books in the category to see how some of the masters go about it. For instance, I think that the film "Hacksaw Ridge," based on the book by Booton Herndon, is a good example of that, albeit violence since it's about WWII.
It's very expensive to pay a professional to edit your manuscript. I wouldn't suggest it unless you and your literary agent were to arrive at such a conclusion. Of course, the manuscript should be as polished as it can be before it goes out on submission to a literary agent, though.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome to Seekerville, Mark. And, thank you for the informative post. Finding an agent is a difficult process, even more so, finding the agent who is right for you and your work.
ReplyDeleteHi Audra,
DeleteThanks for the kind words. Glad this could be a light in the dark for you.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Good Morning Mark. This was a great post because representation is something a lot of unpublished writers don't fully understand. I was fortunate enough to acquire an agent at one point, and though that agency has since gone out of business, I learned so much. I prepared all the necessary documents, etc and it was great experience. The only thing that kind of stymied me was the platform. Here is my question and I suspect there is no concrete answer, but which comes first the book or the platform? In other words, how does one build a platform without a book? Thanks so much for being with us in Seekerville today.
ReplyDeleteCincy, I sympathize, my former crit partner was signed with a TOP agency and it didn't work out. Then she sold On Her Own and continues to sell.
DeleteIn the end it is all about the work.
KB
Cindy, I love the question about building a platform before the book! I'm an introvert, so the only TWO people who get to read my WIPs are my critique partners. A million? Hoosh!
DeleteMarcia, I could get arguments on this, but I think the only people we're SUPPOSED to show WIPs to are crit partners, beta readers and professional editors. Your "following" is everything and everyone else. And showing up here is a big step or a baby step, depending on how introverted you are. You'll get the hang of it.
DeleteKB
Hi Cindy,
DeleteThanks for your comment. It's too bad you didn't have a good experience with a literary agency. In working with smaller, boutique literary agencies, them going out of business can sometimes be the case. Where I work we don't have many of the problems smaller literary agencies do. I speak to this some more in this article: http://writersinthestormblog.com/2017/02/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-new-york-literary-agent/
In my comment above, I speak to your question about platform. For nonfiction, platform must already be in place. For fiction, platform is truly borne from the writing itself.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Good morning, Mark. Here's where I am in the process. After several self-edits of my Biblical fiction, I hired a professional editor for both a developmental and line edit. What a great learning experience! Now I am working on a query letter. Next will be crafting a short synopsis and last polish of my first three chapters. I've identified an agent I'd like to send to. What's holding me back now? I feel my first three chapters don't have a strong enough hook at the beginning.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to know when it's done.
Hi Dana,
DeleteIt sounds like you have most of your ducks in a row. If you're concerned about the first few chapters, you might try some critique sessions at a conference or workshop. I know that many conference have first page critiques. Alternatively, doing a small submission and getting some editorial feedback from that might also help...
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Hi Mark, thank you for an informative post. I'm a list-y person and always enjoy seeing things laid out that way.
ReplyDeletePlatform is a problem for a lot of people until you break it down: it's about relationships. a little more formal than that, but that's what it boils down to. PS, I never say "What it boils down to" in my fiction writing.
I think I'm ready, I've made every mistake in the book (oh, joy, another cliché), and I think it's now a matter of tying it all together. But that can be the hardest part.
Mark, thank you for sharing your real-world experience.
Kathy Bailey
Hi Kathy,
DeleteIt's music to my ears to hear that this post fits just right for your needs.
I speak to platform some more above in the comments section, if that's helpful to you.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Hi Mark, welcome to Seekerville. Thanks for the helpful information. My biggest struggle is trying to inject some personality into a query letter.
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing!
Hi Jackie,
DeleteThanks very much. Personality is always nice but I think most literary agents are plain just looking for a good, strong hook in a query letter that is very well-written.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Rose's question above brings another thought. How long do you wait on an agent who has requested the full. Is their such a thing as a normal wait for a response?
ReplyDeleteProbably not.
At what point is it reasonable to nudge?
Great question and one I have also. Thx, Sarge
DeleteHi Tina,
DeleteThat's a good question. I wish it were an exact science, but it takes people time to read and a lot of it depends on the personality of the literary agent. For instance, if I start reading and I'm interested, then I read ASAP, like sometime overnight, and get back to the client right after that to express my level of interest, rather than merely sitting on my hands.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
ReplyDeleteThat brings up a second question which I have been asked lately.
Do agents expect that you are going to multiple submit? That said, at what point do they want notification of other agent's interest?
When someone else asks for the full? Or only when another agent makes an offer.
What's the protocol/etiquette here?
I've always heard that unless it's stated specifically, agents and editors have no expectations of exclusive submissions. As far as notifying the agent of another's interest...I'd like to know that, too.
DeleteHi Tina,
DeleteUnless an author agrees to an exclusive submission to a literary agent, which I never ask for, then the expectation of the literary agent is that it's a multiple submission to other literary agencies as well. Most literary agencies do not accept multiples of a submission to the various literary agents at the same literary agency, though.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Mark, thank you for sharing about this topic. I always find it helpful to hear about gaining representation from an agent. Thanks for sharing good questions to ask an agent offering representation. I hadn't thought about some of those. And, it's good to know that it's okay (and not necessarily uncouth) to ask about things like the commission structure.
ReplyDeleteI always thought it was the accepted norm to sign an agreement with an agent to work together. When might this not be the case?
Hi Jeanne,
DeleteThanks and I'm glad you like the article.
Sometimes I offer the client the opportunity to work in a handshake agreement if they want for that. I know it might sound old-fashioned and gentlemanly, but that sometimes make sense working in that way, at least until we were able to find the client a publisher. The client knows how we work, what our commission structure is, and that the publisher's contract will carry our agency clause. Most of all, I just want authors to feel like they want to work with me and not that they have to, and that they work with me because I do good work. Most literary agents or literary agencies will force you to sing an agency agreement, though, which effectively marries you to that literary agency.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Thank you, Mark. Very useful information, which I will have to keep for later when I am ready. Have a great week!
ReplyDeleteHi Kelly,
DeleteOK sounds good, thanks!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Thank you Mark, for this very informative post. While I'm a long way off before I even think about an agent, editor, etc., I'm going to print this post and keep it nearby. I would ask all of the above questions, and will wait for your answers.
ReplyDeleteI have submitted the first three chapters, a synopsis and query letter to a publisher, and that is what I considered the hard part of writing. My older brain finds it difficult to revert back to its high school days when thoughts came easier, and enthusiasm was high.
Would love to be entered for the book draw and gift card. I read widely, but romance is what I write.
Happy Birthday, Seekerville. Enjoying the party!
Blessings,
Marcia
Marcia, I agree that synopses and query letters are tough to write! I much prefer just writing the manuscript. :)
DeleteMe, too, Missy
DeleteIt may be harder on your brain, Marcia, but I'll bet when you do think of something it's a lot more useful than anything a teenager comes up with.
Deleteahem, not counting the very wise and brainy teenagers who visit Seekerville of course.
Good cover, Mary! Lol. Yes, they are wise and brainy, making my point. :)
DeleteMarcia, I've read your work. You are no way a long way off.
DeleteHi Marcia,
DeleteThanks, I'm honored to hear that. It's never too late to start all over again...
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Tina, I appreciate your confidence in me. I'll take all the encouragement and support I can get.
DeleteMark, welcome! Thanks for this great post on preparing to submit. I really liked how you mentioned the importance of finding the right match with an agent. It really is almost like a marriage. I went to several workshops that my agent taught before submitting to her because I wanted to make sure I would like working with her. I learned a lot in one particular workshop she taught with some of her clients. I could tell they really respected her, and could tell she worked very hard for them. Soon after that, I set up an appointment to meet with her at a conference.
ReplyDeleteHi Missy,
DeleteI am glad that you liked this post. Smart of you to study up on literary agents before approaching them, too!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome to Seekerville, Mark! And thank you for sharing this timely and helpful post.
ReplyDeleteHappy birthday Seekerville!
Thanks, Amber!
DeleteAll the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome to Seekerville, Mark!
ReplyDeleteI queried agents many times before I landed my agent, and most of them had the good sense to turn me down...because they were professionals and could tell my writing wasn't ready.
I queried in stages, I guess you'd say. My first big "push" to get an agent was when I finaled in the Golden Heart. I remember receiving form letter rejections from most of the agents. One agent called me and wanted to sign me based on the query. That freaked me out, and after more research (tip #1: lesson learned...research thoroughly FIRST) on agent, I declined the offer.
I queried again a couple of years later with a double GH finalist status. My current agent had thrown his hat in the ring by then and I was impressed with his credentials. But, again, he declared that I wasn't quite there yet.
I did land an agent around that time, and it was the darkest period of my career. (tip #2: research, take your time, be sure; but if it doesn't work out, use the experience to learn what you do need and want in an agent).
I'd have to look back in my files, but I think I queried my current agent 3 times, and we finally decided to work together in 2010, six years after my initial query.
Be patient. Know what you want. If at all possible, attend conferences and meet agents face to face. That's what I did. When I was searching for an agent my second time, I had 2-3 agents that I'd met and talked to at the ACFW conference, they'd all reviewed my writing over the years and had noticed improvements, and were watching me, too, I suppose.
It took me a while to get there, but I love the people I work with... my agent, Steve Laube, and my editors at Tyndale. If it seems that it's taking a while to get there (wherever there is for you), just keep plugging away!
Hi Pam,
DeleteI'm glad it worked out for you in the end.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Mark, welcome to Seekerville.
ReplyDeleteI have a question that is outside the topic you’ve addressed, but I thought you might know the answer. I write historical fiction with Christian and romantic elements. My primary focus is medieval Japan. (I refer to my work as “Like Shogun, but the heroine survives.”) I had an agent for two years, but numerous publishers of Christian fiction declined my work during that time, often citing the location. I’ve since managed to sell my first novel through Amazon’s Kindle Scout program, with Amazon having the e-book rights and me self-publishing the print version.
My question is this. In your opinion, how many copies (roughly) would I need to sell of this first novel in order to get publishers to reconsider future works of mine set in locales outside what the current market puts out?
Thank you.
Like Shogun, but the heroine survives.
DeleteLOL, Walt!
Hi Walt,
DeleteYou would probably need to sell close to 50K copies at a decent price to get a major trade publisher interested.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome, Mark, and thank you for this thorough overview of how to prepare when seeking an agent.
ReplyDeleteAs with Pam above, my first big push followed my Golden Heart win. Even then, though, I learned I wasn't quite ready. One vitally important lesson I did learn was that you should NEVER jump at the first offer of representation you receive! Research into that agent's credentials is critical.
A few years later, after landing contracts for my first few books on my own, I eventually connected with my agent, and her insights, career guidance, and industry knowledge have proven invaluable. In these changing times in the publishing world, I'm especially grateful to have her in my corner!
Hi Myra,
DeleteGlad it worked out for you, too, thanks.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
I am in the self editing and rewriting stage of three finished novels I know that they are not ready to submit to a publisher or agent yet. As I have been explaining to my friends the process of getting published, I keep getting asked a question and it is one I have had for some time. What does it cost to have an agent?
ReplyDeleteI am also wondering do I have to have won or been a finalist in a contest. I have entered several but not gotten to that stage yet.
Thank you so much for this post. I will be printing this off so I can have it to refer to as I strive for this stage in my writing.
Praising the Lord I am entering into the third day of no vertigo. Hope this lasts a long time. I have so much to catch up on Writing, various household chores and other items.
Happy Birthday everyone in Seekerville!
Hi Wilani,
DeleteI'm glad you like this post. As literary agents, our work is commission-based. A legitimate literary agent should not have an hourly rate and should not charge you to review your work.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
I'm smiling because this is a LOT of work and, trust me, it's SIMPLE compared to when I started writing. I wasn't online at the time. I couldn't check out publishers or agents websites without going to the library.
ReplyDeleteI had a copy of writer's market guide. I did go to the library, although my local one had limited hours and I had four elementary aged kids so it wasn't that easy.
I sent out SO MANY query letters...addresses found in Write's Market Guide.
Anyway, it's probably just as hard now I'm sure agents were inundated them as they are now.
These steps are great advice, Mark, thanks for a great post.
Haha! I can't imagine licking all those stamps for thosebquery letters!!!!
DeleteHi Mary,
DeleteThanks so much for your kind words and for reminding us not to take the wonders of technology for granted!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Exactly, Mary. LMP was the guide I used to look at agents. And all that PAPER!!!
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, and the postage bills we accumulated!!!
DeleteHi Mark,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the thoughtful reminders. Such an interesting business.
Hi Lyndee,
DeleteMy thanks to you as well! I agree that the book business is interesting and carries its own set of challenges, but life wouldn't be interesting if it was easy!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Hi Mark, Thank you for joining us today in Seekerville and providing such an extensive and helpful checklist. Sure wish I'd had this when I started writing, so know it will be helpful to many today. Thanks again for taking your valuable time to write the article for our birthday celebration.
ReplyDeleteHi Sandra,
DeleteThanks so much!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
As one who is just entering the query phase, this post is perfect! Great timing! So many people asked the questions I had so I shall await your answers! Thanks again for a great post.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
DeleteAll the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Thanks for coming and sharing with us. 😁
ReplyDeleteSounds like great information for writers. 💞
The Life, Love and Babies series sounds excellent. 💖 👶 💖
Oh, good, thanks!
DeleteAll the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
I've never had a literary agent (how much would one cost anyway?) before, because I'm a self-published author, but I've considered going the way of traditional publishing. What all does a literary agent do for you?
ReplyDeleteAlso if you are a previously published author, but you published your work independently does it help or hinder your chances at getting a literary agent? Or does it make no difference?
Thanks!
I speak to both of these questions above. Our work is commission-based and self published authors need to sell a lot of get our attention, like 50K copies!
DeleteAll the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Great information Mark! Thank you.
ReplyDeleteHi Sharee,
DeleteThanks so much!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Welcome, Mark! Thank you so much for all this helpful information and taking the time to share with us today. I'm sure you're super busy so your post is appreciated.
ReplyDeleteBlessings, Patti Jo
Hi Patti Jo,
DeleteGlad to be here, thanks.
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
WELCOME TO SEEKERVILLE, MARK!!
ReplyDeleteAND HOLY COW, what a keeper post!! I have people ask me ALL the time how to get published, so I put together a simple bulleted list a long time ago with all the things that I did, but I gotta tell you, mine is garbage next to yours!! Of course, you are a professional, so I shouldn't have tried this at home ... ;)
I have almost never done this, but I copied the link to your post today and plan to give it to everyone who asks me how to get published from this point on, so THANK YOU!!
Kind regards,
Julie
Okay, like everyone else, I am absolutely BLOWN AWAY by the "million social media followers"! Wow, only about 996,000 left to go!! ;)
ReplyDeleteYou said: The average self-published book sells less than a dozen copies in the lifetime of the book."
That pretty much blows me away, too, which just shows the glut of indie books out there!! Thankfully I've sold more than a dozen copies, so at least I'm above average! :)
REALLLLY great post, Mark -- thanks for sharing your expertise.
Kind regards,
Julie
Mark, I know you're getting close to time to go home in NYC. Thank you for spending the day with us. We will announce your (Samantha Chase) winners on Sunday. Thanks so much for helping us to celebrate TEN YEARS!!!
ReplyDeleteHi Tina,
DeleteGlad to stop by, thanks again!
All the best,
Mark
Mark Gottlieb
Literary Agent
Trident Media Group, LLC
41 Madison Avenue, Floor 36
New York, NY 10010
(212) 333-1506
tridentmediagroup.com
Thanks for the informative post, Mark. I will be printing it out for future reference.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry to be so late commenting. I've been at the day job (teaching 7th grade), but now I'm home and ready to write.
Thank you, Mark! I have saved your article to re-read when I think I'm ready.
ReplyDeletePlease enter me in both drawings.
May God bless you and all of Seekerville!
Thank you for this post and your time, Mark. I've added it to my Pinterest board of articles for authors. I do find the hardest part (besides figuring out how to have millions of followers for my platform) is coming up with succinct hook. I'd love to be included in the drawing.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your information. Definitely something to remember!
ReplyDeleteSorry to be late, Mark (out of town for doctor visit). Sounds like your hard work is appreciated by Seekers. I am a reader, but admire what you do for writers.
ReplyDeleteCount me in for the A. card.
Mark,
ReplyDeleteGreat information, thank you. I didn't read every comment so forgive me if this is repetitive. What is the rule on seeking representation for self published books?
Thank you, again!
I have found Mark Gottlieb's various interviews this year very informative, this one most of all. So many thanks to him and Seekerville. And amen regarding dreams. Theodor Herzl's extraordinary dream seemed impossible to many, if not most, people until it came true over 40 years after his death. That puts our smaller dreams into perspective.
ReplyDelete“I always say, when in doubt, blow something up.”
I blow up a lot of things in my trilogy. Maybe I should move some of the explosions to Chapter 1!
Mark, thanks for this informative post. I've been wondering what I needed to do prior to seeking literary representation and you explained it perfectly.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the interesting and informative post! I'm not a writer but your post was eye-opening; getting a book published is not just about sitting down and writing a good book!
ReplyDeleteI would agree with Mark G. on Reading how to books on the nonfiction book proposal process. As it relates to the content of the book proposal it is essential to understand the nuances involved with developing a book proposal that will yield the results you desire
ReplyDeleteMark, The column you wrote and the great comments and advice that followed makes this blog a keeper. You listed and updated all the steps necessary to inform both new and old writers in today’s world. I especially was interested in the Platform paragraph and how to get blurbs. I can’t praise you enough for taking your time to give back to us writers. Thanks for sincere effort. Have a nice day.
ReplyDelete“Happy 10th Birthday Seekerville volunteers and members of this wonderful family. You give us writers so much. I wish you continued success.
ReplyDeleteWow, if I was a writer I would appreciate the work an agent could do for me! The process of selecting the right one sounds a little daunting but for its importance I'm sure the effort is worth it.
ReplyDeleteMark knows what he's talking about. What he taught me about writing and publishing would have taken years (if ever) for me to learn. Thanks, Mark.
ReplyDeleteHi Mark, I am not a writer but I know a young lady who is hoping to become a published author. I will share your excellent advice with her.
ReplyDeleteHappy birthday Seekerville.
Connie
cps1950(at)gmail(dot)com
I'm not a writer but as a reader it's always interesting to see all the work that goes into being an author..
ReplyDeleteHappy Birthday Seekerville.. toss me into the drawing to please..
Hullo Mark, this post is definitely a save-n-keeper! i'm an indie author and from time to time, i flirt with the notion of seeking an agent and publisher. thanks for the great into!
ReplyDeleteAs a reader, I appreciate all the thought and work that authors put in so that I have wonderful books to read. Thank you authors!
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