Wednesday, October 4, 2017

Ten Ways Seekerville Made Me A Better Writer

with guest Virginia Carmichael (aka Mary Jane Hathaway).

Hi, everybody!  I’m so excited to be back in Seekerville. It’s the one website that has really shaped me as a writer and here are just a few ways that’s happened. 


1.) Seekerville taught me to ‘walk on water’ 

A beginning writer is filled with self-doubt. A seasoned writer is filled with self-doubt. This job has a lot of what I call ‘walking on water.'

My husband drives off to work and he knows his employment will be open, his boss will be there, his crew will be there, and the day’s work is pretty much going to be what he’s done for the last twenty years. No real surprises.

That’s not the way this business works. EVERYTHING changes. But there’s no reason to be afraid. Seekerville is the place I realized that we’ve been given a divine calling to write. Change is good. Pray hard, have a little faith, and don’t look down at the waves. 

2.) Seekerville exposed me to a variety of authors.

This might not sound like much, but we all know that writers have to be readers. Unlike some writing blogs, it’s never been just the biggest sellers or a very small circle of the ‘old guard’. I’m so thankful for the many and varied authors that have come through this site, and all the wisdom they’ve given us so willingly!




3.) It’s not all sunshine and roses. 

When you first start writing, you float around on a bright and shiny cloud of optimism! You know your book will be brilliant. You know you’ll find an agent and sell to a Big Five House. (Seasoned writers are all laughing loudly at this.) Seekerville has never shied away from tackling the tough topics like rejections, writer’s block, time constraints, low sales, etc. The writer’s life isn’t all brownies, hot coffee, and unlimited writing time. Sometimes it’s bruised bananas, tap water, and six kids with the flu. And that’s okay. Persistence is key, and Seekerville prepares you for the long haul (with friendship and virtual coffee).

4.) Sometimes that “hand up” is one you can touch.

I’ve probably told this story a dozen times here and there, but way back in 2011 (or was it 2012?) I won a printer on Seekerville. Back then, everything was sent by mail, so every time I queried an agent or sent a partial, I had to pay .10 a sheet at the library. It doesn’t sound like much, but as a struggling young family living on one income, that turned into $50 or more a month when I was sending out partials and fulls. When I won that printer, it helped me tremendously. (I also edit better on paper so that is another way that prize made me a better writer!) Can you believe it’s still going strong? Seekerville isn’t just a place where people type into the void. The support is real, tangible, and life-changing. I can’t promise you’ll win a printer, but you might win some really good books, and those can be just as life-changing.

5.) How the book comes into being is not the important bit.

Before I discovered Seekerville, I thought that if I made a bullet point list of plot points, then plotted it out in a short form of thirty pages, then handwrote it into a notebook, and then transcribed it, the book would be better. Is it any wonder it took me two years to write my first book???

Seekerville taught me that every writer has a different method. The typewriter isn’t better than pen. Mac isn’t better than PC. Scrivener isn’t better than Word. Plotting isn’t better than pantsing. Writing from A-Z isn’t better than writing scenes as they occur to you. You get the idea… The book is the important part, and how you get there doesn’t really matter.


6.) Community is key.

The writing life can be very isolating. No regular person wants to hear about your character dilemmas, or how you have to erase three chapters because you realized your villain wasn’t mean enough. You need someone to talk to, preferably a whole group of someones! If you can’t find the right group of writer friends, keep looking. When you find it, you’ll realize that having these people behind you is the difference between night and day. They’ll pray for you, cheer for you, go to bat for you, listen to you when you’re obsessed with a book, and hold your hand when things go wrong. There’s no substitute for that great group of writing friends. 

7.) Craft Must be Learned

OK, I may be speaking for myself here, but a lot of what I understood writing to be when I first started was simply wrong. I’m not talking about grammar, formatting, and fonts. I’d had plenty of time in academia to know how to use a dictionary. I’m talking about story structure, POV, switching perspectives, the hero’s journey, inspirational theme, saggy middles, engaging the reader, starting with a bang, a satisfying ending, etc. There are a few instinctually good writers who can simply pick up a pen and craft a masterpiece. The rest of us have to learn it. Seekerville is responsible for 85% of my understanding of craft. The other 15% comes from books recommended by Seekerville posts.

8.)  Word Count Is Key.

Another reason it took me two years to write my first book was that I didn’t really grasp how connected word count was to actually finishing. I know, you’re rolling your eyes. 

I crafted what I thought was a masterful first three chapters. (Let’s not debate whether it really was masterful, haha.) Then I’d learn something new, and go back and revise. Then I’d write a few paragraphs, have a week or so break because I was a busy mom and life was crazy, then write a few more paragraphs. When I looked back at those first few chapters, I saw things I wanted to change. So I’d spend precious writing time revising… again. 

Lather, rinse, and repeat for eighteen months. When I read a Seekerville comment on 1K a day word counts (I think that was you, Ruthy) the light FINALLY DAWNED. Good grief, I might still be revising those first three chapters six years later if I hadn’t read that comment!

9.) Genre is everything.

In 2011,  I simply wrote the book that had appeared in my head. I had no idea that what I was calling romance, was actually Christian romance. Having a Christian element suddenly slotted my book into a different category, one that most agents weren’t interested in selling. Also, most books in that genre weren’t the five hundred page tomes I liked to read. (I blame Julie Lessman for that misunderstanding, haha!) They were more three hundred or less. 

Part of writing to sell is understanding the market. Knowing the genre of the book you’ve written (and adding or deleting, if you must) is absolutely key in finding a publishing home for your book. Seekerville helped me understand not only how to write, but what it was exactly that I had written. 



10.) It’s okay to not have all the answers. 

Sometimes, years after you’ve written a book, you realize the ending was THIS CLOSE to being fantastic, but you simply weren’t a good enough writer at the time to get to it. And that’s okay. There’s no shame in looking back on old books and seeing flaws you didn’t see before. That means you’ve grown and changed as a writer. Seekerville reminds me that we’re writers with a calling, souls on a journey. We do the very best we can, where we are, right now. It’s not about awards, royalties, or headlines. It’s about reaching readers with a story and honoring the Giver of this gift called writing. 


Happy TENTH anniversary, Seekerville! The original Seekers, the blog posters, the commenters, the community… I wouldn’t be the writer I am today without you!

What about you, Villagers? Do any of these ten ways resonate? How has Seekerville made you a better writer-or reader?

Virginia/Mary Jane is giving away a copy of Autumn's Majesty: Seasons of Faith Book Two to one commenter today! Winner announced in the next Weekend Edition.


Can the town busybody learn to keep a secret? 

Vivacious Jamie Lawson has a lot in common with her first-grade students. She’s bright, curious, energetic, has a big heart… and lacks any kind of filter. Her friends laugh about how she can’t help sharing what’s on her mind, but her mother warns her that trouble will find a woman who can’t hold her tongue.

The day Jamie accidentally breaks her best friend’s trust, she finally realizes that what is charming in a six-year-old, just isn’t as adorable in an adult. She vows that with God’s help, she’s going to listen more and talk less, especially around handsome Theo Delis. He’ll be helping her run the Lawson Family Blueberry Farm for the summer, and it will be the perfect time for Jamie to learn a little introspection. His serious, no-nonsense demeanor is the polar opposite of her gabby personality, and she’s sure he’ll be drawn to her new, aloof personality. 

But as the heat of an Arcadia Valley summer settles in, Jamie discovers there’s more to wisdom than silence and more to love than mystery. 

When an old friend needs confidential support can Jamie finally learn to lead with her heart, and not her mouth? 


A story of deep friendship, laughter, and learning to listen to grace.





Virginia was born near the Rocky Mountains and although she has traveled around the world, the wilds of Colorado run in her veins. A big fan of the wide open sky and all four seasons, she believes in embracing the small moments of everyday life. A home schooling mom of six children who rarely wear shoes, those moments usually involve a lot of noise, a lot of mess, or a whole bunch of warm cookies. Virginia holds degrees in Linguistics and Religious Studies from the University of Oregon. She lives with her habanero-eating husband, Crusberto, who is her polar opposite in all things except faith. They've learned to speak in short-hand code and look forward to the day they can actually finish a sentence. In the meantime, Virginia thanks God for the laughter and abundance of hugs that fill her day as she plots her next book. She writes under the pen names of Mary Jane Hathaway and Virginia Carmichael.


We brought along some Villagers to say
 Happy Birthday today and cupcakes! 



Becky B (Ohiohomeschool)


Anne Rightler


Beth Erin & Jessica Price

162 comments :

  1. This post can pertain to life! Well, I've discovered that most posts, while mostly catered to writers, can also be applied to other things in life. That's what I love about Seekerville! As a reader, I've gleaned many valuable lessons & reminders over the last two years or so of being part of this wonderful community.

    My favorite ones from this post? #2, #3, #6,#7 and #10. Seven says "craft must be learned", again it pertains to writing, but I think that can be with anything. Motherhood, being a good spouse, learning more about God (that's a constant!), etc, etc. See, that's what I love about Seekerville ;-)

    Thanks for a great post and the videos of everyone saying Happy 10th birthday..I love putting faces to names I've only seen online. I'm loving that cover for Autumn Majesty, it's beautiful!

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    1. Hi Trixi!

      So true about these working for motherhood, too!!

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    2. Trixi, you are right, these are good life lessons for most of life. Number One makes me think of pastors, who definitely don't have a nine-to-five job with measurable results. Or missionaries, or any kind of Christian worker. Which we are.
      KB

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    3. And Mary Jane OF COURSE motherhood!

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  2. Lovely post, Virginia. Thanks for the wonderful things you said about Seekerville. I think you were almost to publication when you found us. :)

    May I mention perfectionism? As much as we want our stories to be perfect, they usually aren't. We don't have enough time to make them perfect...or we might be the perpetual first chapter writer and rewriter you mentioned.

    Less than perfect books can still be enjoyable reads. My two cents.

    Congrats on your success, Virginia! Hugs!

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    1. Hi Debby!
      Excellent point. I saw a meme the other day that made me smile. "Artists never finish a project. We abandon them because we're perfectionists and they'll never be truly finished."

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    2. I have a P stamped on my forehead. Thanks for your wise words, Debby and Mary Jane!

      Janet

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  3. What a!great post Virginia! As Trixi said above, your ten points could work for anything in life. When I read #8 I chuckled as that is me. When I was writing I would get as far as the first chapter and then read it and change it and set it aside, come back to it, change it again...Needless to say it was a viscous circle. I haven't written anything now for almost two years. God has me in a season and well my mind is blank as far as stories go. So I'm am in a waiting pattern to learn what He wants for me next.

    I do appreciate everything that the Seekers and guests share with us all as well. Happy 10th Birthday Seekerville!

    Blessings,
    Cindy W.

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    1. Hi Cindy!

      My teenager is obsessed with Hamilton and wanted to write songs. He spent three weeks writing, the tearing up lyrics. I finally had to tell him he could NOT tear up his work!
      I hope you find the space and the peace to create again.

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  4. Fantastic post, Virginia! I can relate to all of your points, especially #7. Recently, I started my 4th Seekerville notebook which have served as my reference guide over the years. Thanks for visiting! Thank you, Seekerville!

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    1. A Seekerville Notebook! That is a brilliant idea!

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    2. Oh, great idea! Tina, get on this! I know tons of us would but it!

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    3. Yeah, in my spare time. I will get right on this. Though it is a brilliant idea.

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  5. Thanks for the post! As a reader, it's always fascinating to see the process the authors go through to produce such great books that I love. Seekerville has opened my eyes to the writing process and techniques that now I can say I didn't particularly connect with such and such book because of such and such reasons.

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    1. Hi MH!

      I'm more of a reader than a writer so I hear you!

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  6. Virginia,

    Thank you so much! Your post is encouraging and speaks to all the wonderful things that Seekerville does for us. I'm thankful for their influence on my journey as a writer. I would not be as far as I am without all the great advice and craft book recommendations found here. This makes a great birthday salute that we can all echo. Thank you Seekers.

    Your book sounds fun. Please throw my name in the hat and have a great day.

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    1. Hi Bettie!
      I'm glad the post encouraged you and happy writing!

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  7. What a fabulous post, and oh so true on every point! This is the place where I have connected with other writers and found my tribe. It is a place of feasting as well as a great boot camp while in the trenches.

    Your book sounds fabulous!

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    1. Hi Sherrinda,
      It makes all the difference, doesn't it!?

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    2. Which is also a bit scary...am I right????? We are all so much alike..your people, I mean.

      We talk to ourselves and we stare at the wall...we're a strangle lot.

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  8. The wilds of Colorado flow through my veins too, Virginia!! This ENTIRE post resonates with me. Especially, "Seekerville isn’t just a place where people type into the void. The support is real, tangible, and life-changing." AMEN, AMEN, and AMEN!!!!

    Seekerville not only helped me have the courage to enter the Killer Voice contest, it helped me finish the manuscript for it and realize that - yes - I have the skills to write and catch an editor's eyes. That, I how to seek the Lord on what exactly I need to write. And how to have discipline (um, still working on that one), and how to encourage others in their writing journeys (hopefully I'm doing as good as they do).

    Again, you've said all I feel and better. I love your books and have no idea how you can handle writing and six children with hubby. I can barely figure things out with just one young blessing - let alone six. You are awesome (at least to me).

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    1. Isn't that the truth. Thinking of Mary Virginia and I think I am a slacker.

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    2. I always tell people that six is easier than one because they entertain each other, but nobody believes me! Lol.

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    3. Well I believe that. I had four and they divide up into groups of two and play and not always the same two in the group, which is interesting.

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    4. p.s. did I forget to mention to put my name in the draw for the book? I think I was awed by how Virginia nailed my gratefulness for Seekerville...

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  9. Welcome, Mary Virginia! I should have made you bring food. YOU are the better cook and baker of the two of us. (Mary Virginia hangs out at the Yankee Belle Cafe cooking too-see the tab at the top of the page).

    You honor us and humble us. It has been a wonderful journey.

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    1. Ha! Make sure you all look for the "kitchen fail" tag. There might be one from Missy but the rest are all mine.
      Thanks for the kind words, and thanks so much for all the help in the many years I've been tagging along behind the Seekerville gang.

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  10. Hi Mary Virginia!

    I think the realistic, yet POSITIVE, support here at Seekerville is something every writer needs. Because, like you said, writers are filled with self-doubt most of the time.

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    1. Hi Rose!
      And humor, don't forget the humor! I just laugh at the way these gals chat with each other, dropping inside jokes and throw-back references none of us get!

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    2. Do we do that??? hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

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    3. I love the genuine affection among the original Seekers.

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  11. Good morning, Virginia! Friends of Seekerville like you are what makes our community a happy home! :) Thank you for sharing your thoughts on what that's meant to you. We're delighted to be a part of your writing journey!

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    1. Thank you, Glynna! And I'm pretty sure I just saw your beautiful book on the shelves at Walmart!

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    2. Glynna, I bought your book and am packing it for fall vacation next week. Also bought Ruthy's, almost done with that one. Reading a lot.
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  12. Wonderful post, Mary Virginia! Thanks for reminding us of all the reasons Seekerville is the best! I especially loved #6, community is key. Seekerville feels like home to me. It's one of my happy places. When I'm discouraged or feeling down, I know I can come here for a hug (or when needed, a swift kick in the booty) and everything will be better.

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    1. I wonder what our hug to swift kick ratio is?????

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    2. With me and my smart mouth? I’m sure the swift kicks far outweigh the hugs. LOL

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  13. Great post! I noticed you homeschooled. I am the homeschooling mom of 7.
    Becky
    PS it was so fun to meet Ruthy and make the Happy Birthday video. Within seconds she had me in the hallway making the video before I knew what was happening.:-)

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    1. Hi! Isn't homeschooling the best? We love it!!
      And that video is so great. :)

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    2. We love homeschooling too! It is a good fit for our family. Enjoy your day.

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  14. Love 8) Word count is key. Once the lightbulb went off, get the story down then go back and revise, I've been able to get more words down. It's so much easier to edit words that are already there.

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    1. Hi Sally!
      Shannon Hale says that we should treat the first draft like we're shoveling sand into a pile so we can make sand castles later!

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  15. Great post, Virginia! I truly feel blessed to have found this place and these people. These ladies actually want other writers to succeed. So much encouragement, information and inspiration in one spot. Amazing. When I'm counting my blessings, Seekers and Villagers are near the top of that list. Looking forward to the next year! Happy Birthday, Seekerville!!!

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    1. Hi Laura!
      I totally agree.
      P.S.
      I misread inspiration as irritation. Lolol! I was trying to think of the last time Seekerville irritated me...
      Careful reading is key!

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    2. Loura, I agree. There's no competition here. We compete against ourselves trying to become better. LOVE the way this site celebrates a first sale or a contest win.
      KB

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    3. Kaybee,

      YES. This is one of the few places were they will absolutely celebrate every step of the way!! I love that!!

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  16. Wonderful post! Seekerville has shown me how to be a better reader by teaching me about the different aspects of the writing process. I've learned to "pay attention" to those parts as I read in order to write a better review.

    Have a WONDER-filled Wednesday!

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    1. Hi Caryl!
      Oh, that is soooooo true. And I realized how very difficult it is to do well!

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  17. When I stumbled onto Seekerville back in 2013 or 2014, the first thing I noticed was the love. Jesus said you'll know His people by the love they have for each other. That attracts readers and writers alike. Aside from that, the blog is straightforward and easy to nagivate. Every post is a learning experience. Even now, when I need to review a subject, I go to the right of the screen and there are thousands of topics that will refresh my memory. Every subject is written by writers who know their business. No wonder Seekerville is so successful. It's the perfect writer's learning center.

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    1. Hi Elaine!
      Every post is a learning experience... SO true. I don't think I've ever once stopped by Seekervile and NOT learned something from the post.

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  18. Virginia, fun post. I'm looking forward to the not-far-off day when I'll quit my day job and have more time for writing. Then I came to your #3 and laughed about the downside. "Sometimes it’s bruised bananas, tap water, and six kids with the flu." Wow, what an image! I'm not fond of bananas, but eat them because their good for me - only when they're perfectly ripe and not mushy. I love kids and miss mine, who are grown, but six down with the flu? LOL with tears of commiseration.

    Best wishes with your writing career. :)

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    1. Dana, I'm still clinging to my day job, part time.

      Why?

      Because money comes in irregularly in writing, and bills have the habit of coming in with amazing regularity!!! :) So it made sense to me to maintain both... but at least the day job is part time now! So that's sweet!!!!

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    2. We have the eternal debate: is it easier for them to be sick at once, or separately? LOL

      And I hope that someday I get to write at a normal hour, and not in the wee smalls. I'm not Ruthy, with her ability to roll out of bed when it's dark. The only way I'm getting up to work before sunrise is if I just STAY UP.

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  19. Wow, great post, Virginia. One of the best things about Seekerville is being able to "talk" with authors I admire, such as you. If I wrote a list of all the ways Seekerville has helped me I would bogart the comments section! I covet the education, friendship and direction but the encouragements has to go way to the top of the list. I head straight here after my morning prayer time. I've learned about the importance of reviews, have made some great meals (soups), and had desperately needed help with my grammar, and been forgiven for blunders. Oh and learned about ACFW, too. As far as prizes go, ha ha, my family looks at me differently when I say, "I won it." I use my Kindle multiple times a day (Thank you, Sandra), have read terrific books and benefited from story changing critiques. I am so blessed to have found Seekerville.
    Oh and did I mention? I have the coolest potato masher!

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    1. Hahaha! I'm stuck on your "bogart" usage. I've noticed that word more and more... I wonder who started it? I've heard it's after Humphrey and the way he kept the cigarette stuck in the corner of his mouth, never actually using it (therefore hogging it inappropriately).

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  20. Virginia/Mary Jane, I don't usually tear up reading posts but that's what happened when I read yours. It's a blessing to know the blog had such a huge impact in your success! Thank you.

    Seekerville's made me a better writer too. Even the posts I write on craft tips teach me. LOL Cause the truth is, writers need reminders.

    Janet



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    1. Well, I cried while writing it so we're even! I thought it would be so simple and fun to write down the top ten ways Seekerville helped me, but it really brought up wonderful, powerful memories!

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  21. Good morning Virginia!

    Love, love this post!

    I can't tell you how many times I have a writing question and come hear first before I Google it. Yep, just yesterday, I searched kissing scenes.

    All the posts, whether a kick in the pants or a hug is with the intent to make us better writers and give encouragement.

    Virginia, your book sounds cute. I like Jamie already.


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    1. Hi Connie!
      I use this site like it's a microcosm of the entire internet. Why start with Google when it's going to send me to Seekerville anyway? lol

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  22. Tina, I'm loving the Happy Birthday videos!!!!

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  23. Good morning Virginia! This is a fantastic post and I couldn't agree more. I love Seekerville and all these ladies have done for me. The lesson I have tucked away for future use (hopefully) is that someday when I am a published author, I intend to make mentoring and encouragement a big part of my life. I want to pay back a little of what I have received here. The Seekers don't have to do what they do - they want to. And they pray for us too! Thank you Seekers! And thanks Virginia for putting it all down in black and white. Your book sounds great!

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    1. Hi Cindy!
      Exactly. This site has been a labor of love, no repayment asked, and we are so blessed to be the recipients of their generosity!

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  24. What a great post, Virginia! Having gone through the publishing process for the first time very recently, so many things you said are still fresh experiences (and emotions) for me. Some parts made me feel a sense of survival...others made the old anxieties rage. :) That's why your #6 Community is one of the most important parts of this journey (for me). I started 100% solo. I had no idea online writing communities existed! I had a story to write and decided to write it. How different my journey could have been (sigh) if I'd been learning from Seekerville back then. My very favorite thing you told us, however, is the printer story! That really made my heart smile. And that the printer is still going! Thank you so much for sharing the ups and downs of your journey...your mistakes, what you didn't know, etc. It makes me feel normal. :)

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      It's really so, so, so important in this business because it's unpredictable, a marathon to get published, and the learning curve is steep!

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  25. Great post, Virginia. I think #8 is especially a big one for me. I always want to fix my writing and make it good before I can move on. I have had to learn to just keep writing.

    Please put my name in the drawing. The book looks good!

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      I've learned to set hard and fast deadlines for projects that don't have any because otherwise I will just. Keep. Fiddling.

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  26. Wonderful post! I hear from so many aspiring writers that simply want the 'secret handshake' to getting published, when it's all about hard, hard, hard work! And there's nothing wrong with that!! It's the things we work for that we appreciate. Great inspiration for aspiring writers, Virginia. Seekerville is a treasure trove :)

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    1. Amen to that. It's brutal and it's lonely, thus Seekerville filled one gap, but the brutal part, you still gotta live through that. No unicorns and rainbows.

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    2. Tina, what do you mean no unicorns and rainbows?

      Surely there's rainbows since I'll be rolling in dough after I get my first contract. I'll be singing and dancing all the way to the bank.
      Ha. Ha. Ha. (Yes, I'm joking.)

      Sherri, you're so right, it's all about hard work.

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    4. Wait... I got my unicorn and there's a perpetual rainbow over my house. You mean, yours didn't arrive yet??

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  27. Good morning Virginia/Mary-Jane/woman-of-many-names!

    Great post! Every one of your points resonated with me. Where would we be without Seekerville?

    Happy Birthday, Seekerville!

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      How fun to see you outside of the café!

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  28. VIRGINIA!! Oh my gosh, this post is not only flat-out excellent for all writers (and readers), but it made me realize to an even deeper degree just how much all of us affect each other.

    Seekerville is community of like-minded writers and readers with a deep faith in God who not only encourage, inspire, teach, and pray for each other, but glorify Him in the process! Like a person's testimony touches people's hearts for God, hopefully drawing them closer to the Lover of their souls through personal experience, likewise the various testimonies (blogs) on writing draw writers and readers together through personal experience as well. And in the process, hopefully draws them to be better writers, readers, and Christians that will glorify God in their books, relationships, and lives.

    Gosh, you have me waxing philosophical this morning, Virginia, so thank you for reminding me just how special ten years of Seekerville is. We are blessed!

    Hugs and more hugs,
    Julie

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      That is so true. An inspired response! We are ripples in the pond, and Seekerville is a stone that keeps being thrown... Or, maybe that doesn't work. Your way is better!!

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      Hugs,
      Julie

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  29. Thanks for sharing today, Virginia! I can say amen to all this and more. Seekerville has been a lifeline, my writing college, and my favorite blog for about 6 years now.

    Happy birthday Seekerville, and here's to many, many more years to come! I love y'all!

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  30. Oh, and I LOVE this quote:

    "Seekerville reminds me that we’re writers with a calling, souls on a journey."

    Of course, I love ALL the quotes you posted along with the blog, but that one really struck a chord with me, so THANK YOU!!

    You also said: "Also, most books in that genre weren’t the five hundred page tomes I liked to read. (I blame Julie Lessman for that misunderstanding, haha!)"

    And, LOL, sorry for the bad influence, my friend, but it was a bad influence on me, too, since I could have 26 full-blown novels right now instead of only 13 if I'd just cut those suckers in half ... ;)

    But I'm learning! My last two books were 341 and 356 pages versus my usual 500 to 520-page books. Hoping to keep next series I write down to 250 to 275 pages. We'll see ...

    HUGS!
    Julie


    Hugs and more hugs,
    Julie

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      I think writing at certain lengths is a skill, it's true. And it's good to try new things and stretch. But writers can't all write 500 page stories. Some can't write 150. Some can't hit that middle of 250.

      I think it's good to stretch once in a while, but if your talent really shines at 500, stick with it!

      Or maybe that's just the reader in me speaking. I LOVE BIG BOOKS.

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    3. LOL, Tina, I appreciate your confidence in me, but have you ever checked out the word count on my Seeker blogs??? YIKES!! ;)

      Aw, Mary Jane, thank you for your kind comment, my friend -- it means all the more coming from a highly respected peer, so BLESS YOU!!

      Hugs!!
      Julie

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  31. Virginia, what a great post! It's fun to hear what your early process was. When I was working on my first-ever book, I kept going back through the first six chapters and doing what you described, revising it till they sparkled (or maybe gave off a dull glimmer), but I never got to the end of the book. Until a mentor told me to write the story and fix it later. ;)

    I loved your points. I've been so grateful to Seekerville for the encouragement both Seekers and Villagers have offered. I love the community here and the kind hearts.

    Of the points you've shared, I think the biggest thing for me was realizing the beauty of word count. When I'm fast drafting, I love to challenge myself to see how many words I can write in an hour. When I know where the scene is going, I can gust along at upwards of 2K/hour. Note the word, "When . . ."

    Great post, Virginia. It's so exciting to see where God has taken you on your writing journey!

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      Word count is key, right? Where would we be without it?

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  32. Wow, this was amazing. Creating a list of 32 plot points, then writing a book from them might not have worked, but you're a master at creating a list of 10 ways Seekerville made you a better writer.

    And #8 is spot on I can't count the number of wanna-be-author friends who wrote and recycled 3 chapters over and over and over for years. I also did the same thing. I'm sure there's a blog post lurking somewhere in the back of our minds on the merits of that 3-chapter write/rewrite/recycle, but then there does come a time to move on and finish.

    Great list of ten!

    And... I'm loving the videos! So cute, and such fun to to faces and voices to names. :)

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      I have a friend who has a dozen half-finished books. Can you imagine? I've known him ten years and he's still working on each one, a chapter at a time, every so often. I fear he will never finish even one...

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  33. Hi Virginia/Mary Jane, thanks for the great reminder of what this site means to so many people. It has been the single most influential site in my journey. I can get craft in other places and community in other places, but this is the only place where it all comes together. My biggest takeaways from Seekerville are craft advice and seeing the other side of "The Call." Unlike the people who polish the first three chapters, I have in the past been guilty of thinking something is good enough when it emphatically isn't. So Seekerville helped me become a better writer. The other big thing for me was hearing what published writers go through -- dropped imprints, retired agents, moved editors, the vagaries of the market. Burnout, dry spells, life intervening when you've got a deadline. It opened my eyes. I still wanna do this, but the veil of illusion is gone.
    Virginia, I lived in Colorado for four years, one year in Colorado Springs and three years in a little town called Fountain. It was a great experience.
    Kathy Bailey

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    2. Vagaries and bogart are the words of the day!

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    3. Hi Kathy!

      You're wayyyyy ahead of where I was when I first started!

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  34. Terrific post!! Absolutely terrific. So much insight and honesty. Thanks!

    Nancy C

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  35. Seekerville posts always seem to come along at exactly the right time in my writing journey. (Hey, you guys are good.)

    I just got my 2nd book back from a beta reader and my self esteem is hiding under the bed, refusing to come out. Which is silly. The reader wasn't mean, truly. She was honest. I just have a hearing problem when it comes to criticism.

    What the beta reader said: Your writing needs to be improved in area A and B and C.
    What I heard: You are a horrible writer who should never have bothered trying to create a story. Stop wasting everyone's time.

    I really needed someone to remind me that I have to learn this craft, and that it's okay not to have all the answers.

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    1. Evelyn, I hope your reader also pointed out your strengths. In any case, give yourself a few days to process the critique, and then drag your self-esteem out from under the bed and get going again!

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    2. I just have a hearing problem when it comes to criticism.

      Ha. I have the same medical condition.

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    3. Is there a cure???

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    4. Hi Evelyn,

      Please deliver these chocolate cupcakes, fuzzy blanket, and kitten/puppies to your writing ego. If it's too dark under the bed, please also read this note:
      "Dear Writing Ego,
      It's all a lie. Don't believe a word of it."


      Of course that's not true, but after it's had its fill of cupcakes and kitten/puppy cuddles, it will be more likely to come out.


      When my son started Little League, he got hit in the face the very first day. The coach told him it would never happen again, just so he wouldn't be afraid of the ball.

      Of course it was a lie, but otherwise he was going to be crippled with fear and not able to play. Do what you have to do to get that ego out and into the light.

      ((hugs))

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  36. So much inspiration and wisdom here, Virginia! I'm humbled and amazed by the extent of Seekerville's reach. We began as a small but committed cadre of writers encouraging and prodding each other along toward publication. Then we decided to start the blog to pass along what we were learning to others on the journey, and 10 years later . . . WOW!!!

    I could relate to just about all of your points, but #5--how you get there doesn't really matter--is a biggie for me, especially with the ongoing debate between pantsers and plotters.

    And #10--not having to have all the answers--is a reminder that being a writer is a journey, not a destination. We learn with every book and continue growing our skills.

    Love the cover of your book--so romantic!

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    1. Hi Myra!

      I saw a post once that had pictures of author notes from famous books. There was JK Rowling's entire wall of plotting, Stephen King's circular scribbles, John Green's pages of outline, etc.

      I love it! I really think the writer's mind is an incredible place and not a single one is like the other. We have to respect our creative process. And for me, that's a weird sort of backward plotting, where I write first then write down the outline and look at it. :)

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  37. Great post! I love that Seekerville helps writers and each other improve their craft. As a reader it's helped me be more discerning as to why I liked or didn't like a book.

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      I'm more of a reader than a writer so I've definitely had the same experience where I've looked at a beautiful scene and thought, "Ohhhh, now I know how you did that!"

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  38. Seekerville is my main source for learning to write. I am so grateful for not only the learning curves they have sent my way, but also for the encouragement and prayers from not only the Seekers but also the villagers.

    By the way I love the Arcadia Series and have all the e books that have come out. Now to just find the time to get them all read.

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    1. Hi Wilani! It's so great to "see" you! Your reviews always make me feel like I shouldn't ever give up writing. Bless you.

      And thanks for reading the Arcadia series! It's been a fun project!

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  39. Don't forget editing help, as in I'm amazed you were able to cut this list down to ten things.

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    1. Editing falls under butt kicking, Walt. We love red pens as much as Army boots.

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    2. As a woman who is about to enter 164 pages of edits from hard copy to computer file, I agree... Seeing that hard copy and making everything make sense in my head is clutch.

      Tina, agreed... that red pen is my new BFF.

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    3. LOL. RIGHT???

      I laughed out loud when I read this because it was originally about fifteen pages long.

      Cut, cut, cut. Prune, snip, slash, burn.

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  40. Most of what I've learned about being a writer, I've learned on Seekerville. Also if it weren't for Speedbo I wouldn't have learned that I could write a little bit every day, and I would probably still be at the mercy of my capricious whims and moods.

    Thanks a lot guys!

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      It's amazing, isn't it? Like boot camp for authors, but with cupcakes and coffee.

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  41. This list is perfect. This community is encouraging, uplifting, wise and fun!

    BTW, Tina, next time I go to a conference, I'm going to need Seekerville business cards because I talked about it to every single person I met there!

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    2. Hi Josee!

      I do that, too! Whenever someone asks me for a website that I think would be a good place to start, I say, "Seekerville. But it's also good for the writers in the middle of the journey. And those years along the path... You just have to see for yourself."

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  42. Mary Jane!!!! My woman of many names, it is so nice to have you here again, and so crazy appropriate to celebrate this wonderful time with you!

    Thank you for this great list. It's so important to objectively look at what we've learned, what it takes to make it in a crazy competitive business, and how to keep our heads in the storms. Because there are always storms!

    And huge mega congrats on your continued success. That is an absolutely wonderful thing, Mary Jane/Virginia. God is good!!!

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      This is a shortened list, I can assure you! :)

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  43. Hi Virginia. I truly enjoyed your post. I have been an avid reader my whole life and, even though I appreciated the talents that my favorite authors possess, it wasn't until I started visiting Seekerville that I truly understood just how hard they work! Maybe it wass because they are so talented, so proficient but now I know the importance of word counts and plotting. Outlines, query letters....all of those necessary things that I never knew!
    Happy birthday Seekerville. Thanks for opening my eyes!
    Connie
    cps1950(at)gmail(dot)com

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    1. Makes reading a book fast seem sort of WRONG doesn't it????

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    2. Makes reading a book fast seem sort of WRONG, doesn't it, Connie????

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    3. Hi Connie!

      Well, that makes two of us!

      Seriously, sometimes I think it's a feather in our caps if readers can't tell how much hard work goes into a good book.

      The rest of the time I want to include a naggy letter in the back that starts, "Do you know how hard I worked to get this into your hands?" LOL

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  44. Hi Virginia!
    Great post and love the new book cover!

    For me, number six represents Seekerville - community is key. During this very tough year for me personally, I knew this was a place I could come to, lurk, learn and sometimes laugh when my days felt darkest. Thanks for the post!

    Hugs, Seekerville!

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    1. Hi Lyndee!

      I'm sorry you've been going through tough times. ((gentle hugs))

      The Seekerville community is a refuge and a jewel.

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  45. Seekerville is a wonderful site.. I learn so much when I visit. As a reader it's full of info and awesome writers! I've met some wonderful ladies here :)
    Happy Birthday Seekerville!
    dkstevensne AT outlook(DOT) com

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  46. Seekerville really is wonderful. I'm so glad it helped you so much! Congrats on your story; it looks very interesting.

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  47. What a great post, so so encouraging!
    It makes me feel like we've really made a difference here at Seekerville. thank you Mary Jane

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    1. Let's not get carried away. Snort.

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    2. Hi Mary!

      Never doubt it. Not for a moment.

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    3. Mary, all the Seeker Ladies have made a HUGE difference, so get carried away all you want. (you too TINA - what would we do without you?!?)

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  48. Mary Jane, all 10 ways resonate with me. I look back at all the mistakes I've made in my writing journey and grimace. But my Seekerville friends have helped me realize I'm not alone and ... wait for it ... I'm not perfect. And that's ok.

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    1. Yep, you are surrounded by the friendliest and most lovable imperfect folks on the planet. hehehe

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      It's a beautiful thing to look back on a mistake and feel peace, but that comes from wisdom and loving the creative genius inside. I had to learn that skill, and Seekerville really helped me get to that point!

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  49. Right??? She almost has a baseball team there.

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  50. Hi Virginia, Welcome back to Seekerville and thanks for such a wonderful post. I sure wish I had read this when I was starting out. It would have helped. smile I guess those bumps in the road are what inspired us to start Seekerville because we wanted answers and thought we ought to share those we found. It helps. You did a great job. Thanks again.

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    1. Hi Sandra!

      Thanks for always being honest and willing to be open to sharing your lives with new writers!

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  51. Thank you, Virginia, for spending the day with us!!! May that printer never die.

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      And I did have to duck out for visitors and a LOST TURTLE. So heartbreaking. We were cleaning their tank and they overturned the bin outside... and now a beloved turtle has escaped into the wild.

      Sigh. Never a dull moment.

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  52. That was such a great summation of what Seekerville has meant to me as well. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.

    I think number 3 resonated with me. It's not all sunshine and roses but having your writing team around you can help you through those rough patches.

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      And knowing what's coming down the path is very helpful, too!

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  53. Oh, come on, Tina. Is there that much difference between four and six? I have friends with 15 and I think, "WHOAH."
    My husband is one of 11. I think anything over ten is a whole new "ball game". LOL

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  54. Yikes! Arriving late (again) but still arriving, hehe! Wonderful post and I can relate to all these ways that Seekerville helps writers - - it's the BEST place, imho. (And I have to admit that seeing bruised bananas made me think of what yummy banana bread those would make!). ;)
    Thanks for sharing this today, and CONGRATS on your writing success!
    And I want to add that a while back I ordered your set ALONG THE CANE RIVER and am loving it!! :)
    Blessings from Georgia, Patti Jo

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    1. Hi Catmom!

      Hhahahaha, me, too! Bruised bananas have been known to be turned into delicious banana bread in the middle of the night. Writing fuel!

      So glad you're enjoying the Cane River series! Thanks for letting me know. :) :)

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  55. There really isn't. After three and up to eight, it's all the same.

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  56. I must be running on CatMom's schedule. I just got to WiFi.
    Community is huge for me. I've made so many friends through Seekerville. I've learned a lot, but the friendships are even more important.

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    1. Hi Jackie!

      I'm on the West Coast AND I'm a night owl, so never fear, you're right on time!

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  57. Virginia, I'm sorry to be arriving so late! It looks like I missed a great day.

    I love your post! It's been such a blessing for me to be a part of this community. I love hearing stories like yours!

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      How fun to see you here! I'm glad you liked the post, and as I said to Jackie above, you're not late over here in Oregon. :D

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  58. Right! But for some reason, my friends with three just won't take the plunge, hahahaha.

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  59. It sounds & looks like this would be a very helpful site for Authors to be a part of. Thanks for all you do and all you share Seekers.
    I'm happy to be a part of all the fun :)

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  60. What an awesome post! Sorry I'm late again to the party.

    Seekerville has been such a blessing to me in my writing journey. You're right...there are more than 10 ways!

    This is why I have many, many Seekerville notebooks!

    Blessings,

    Marcia

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    1. Hi Marcia!

      So many more than ten ways... we should start a list!
      (Also, the blog post will stay up, so technically, you won't ever be late). :)

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    2. Another blessing, for sure! :)

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  61. Virginia, As a writer I could really identify with your writing journey in the blog you created for us Seekerville followers today. All the emotion, self doubt and the need to remain positive and to keep writing came through in the words you chose. Uplifting for the start of the new writing day for me and others. I thank you. Keep on writing all.

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